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I would say soup kitchens when the defense of the country is sufficient, and there is little choice but to conscript when there is insufficient human resources to defend a country. Otherwise, one might not have a country, and what would be the result then? Probably conscription or worse...
100 sats \ 6 replies \ @adlai OP 20h
Our positions here are quite close; although I've realised over time that different people interpret words like "country", "nation", and "state" in remarkably different ways. I also think nomadic tribes are an example worth keeping in mind, for despite their increasingly sedentary lifestyle given how territorial societies have reduced their ability to roam, there are still lots of families that end up forced into somewhat nomadic trajectories, those being refugee generations.
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Yeah, political theory differentiates between nation, states, nation-states, country and more. All of these ideas suppose that you have something with boundaries that can be described by these terms, which requires boundaries. This distinction, of course, requires an army to keep the logical boundary of whatever term a person or entity applies.
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All those that are brainwashing you to "go to war" should be the ones going first.
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I think the key word in your comment is go; did you check the links from my "futile wars that never end"? There are three links1, all to Wikipedia, and "never end" was to an overview of the crusades. We're probably in agreement about how inexpressibly stupid those were2, and the conflicts where I have a more difficult time deciding any general recommendation or judgement are the ones where the youth are already growing up within the warzone.

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  1. the words "futile" and "wars" were separate anchors, although either anchor could have covered both words in terms of "futile wars" being equally valid, by the conceit of hindsight
  2. you seem happier to express any derision, once you've found some sufficiently impolite expression; I prefer accuracy, at the cost of sometimes remaining silent. Silence does not imply approval, although it definitely gets interpreted as such by overconfident fools.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @adlai OP 12h
Where in my comment did you find anything that you consider "state propaganda"? "Wikipedia" ?
I guess you might have automatically responded that before even reading anything I wrote. It would be consistent with how you apparently harass shitcoiners.
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the whole post show it very clearly
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