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Following the derailment of the poll about my github account, I have decided that I will now test the limits of your patience1 by linking folks to the context that led to this question, so you may consider whether your vote is relevant on that earlier post, read the conversation I had with @jbschirtzinger, and then join its continuation below.
The ultimate generalisation of the questions that arose in that earlier conversation is about the maturation of children, who are inevitably born into social contracts that they lack the maturity to accept, until ages when modern nations consider them already indebted. One common consequence of this is military conscription, which varies widely across the world, including militias of child soldiers, standing armies of neutral nations, and futile wars that seem to never end. Although the conversation that led to this poll was specifically about conscription, I have phrased the question much more generally, and included appropriate options.
Regardless of your vote, please do comment an opinion!

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  1. Please keep in mind that, although voting on either poll is free, I have not paid any boosting fee on the older one, and thus I discourage you from mindlessly zapping if you only do so as some idle way of tossing sats around...
Abstain [please comment your opinion...]0.0%
Tribes at war must conscript at some age0.0%
Legalised conscriptions should be obeyed0.0%
Community service [soup kitchens, etc]75.0%
Children should receive UBI until age 1925.0%
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @zapsammy 18h
people who hopelessly believe in authority ... are hopeless; check out this video and stop sounding like a battered wife who is afraid to leave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
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Vote!
seriously, you wasted your sat sending me a link1; and it doesn't look like either the poll or your comment will reach sufficient zaprank to get much exposure after tomorrow steamrolls away whatever conversations happen today

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  1. ... and it's to "this video", without even commenting any reason why I should watch it, other than to drink propaganda that you consider authoritative? seriously, forget about spending your sats effectively, try to spend your lines effectively.
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In case people grossly misinterpret what I've written:
I personally think the ethical condition of lots of societies in the modern world is quite awful, and am incredibly critical of how most adults pragmatically play along with injustice; however, in composing the poll, I have included the conscription options because I recognise that someone holding these opinions on this site might not want to get drawn into a bitter argument with the ancap/libertarian majority.
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if any of what you are listing is forced and not voluntary, you degrade the quality of society.
I think society should provide opportunities for the youth to create value and build, and they will amaze us with the society that comes next.
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In retrospect, I could have used the word "should" rather than "must" in the main question; however I do believe that lots of people prefer to minimise the amount of deliberation they do independently, and thus even if there is no threat of retribution enforcing the default expectation, there is an effectively coercive effect simply due to societal, familial, and peer pressure.
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You were too much brainwashed into this bullshit statist propaganda. Get over and live your life.
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I have no delusions about being a product of systems far more complex than one placenta, or a log cabin and a single-room schoolhouse; and am much more worried about the quality of propaganda that I produce... do I promote anything beyond myself?
If you honestly want to understand my story, then please at least clarify whether you read all the fragments of it from the linked thread that caused the creation of this one. I have no problem discussing how or why things ended up that way, and telling stories can be much less hostile than a debate about whether the actions narrated were forced, or admirable, or foolish.
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I would say soup kitchens when the defense of the country is sufficient, and there is little choice but to conscript when there is insufficient human resources to defend a country. Otherwise, one might not have a country, and what would be the result then? Probably conscription or worse...
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Our positions here are quite close; although I've realised over time that different people interpret words like "country", "nation", and "state" in remarkably different ways. I also think nomadic tribes are an example worth keeping in mind, for despite their increasingly sedentary lifestyle given how territorial societies have reduced their ability to roam, there are still lots of families that end up forced into somewhat nomadic trajectories, those being refugee generations.
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Yeah, political theory differentiates between nation, states, nation-states, country and more. All of these ideas suppose that you have something with boundaries that can be described by these terms, which requires boundaries. This distinction, of course, requires an army to keep the logical boundary of whatever term a person or entity applies.
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All those that are brainwashing you to "go to war" should be the ones going first.
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I think the key word in your comment is go; did you check the links from my "futile wars that never end"? There are three links1, all to Wikipedia, and "never end" was to an overview of the crusades. We're probably in agreement about how inexpressibly stupid those were2, and the conflicts where I have a more difficult time deciding any general recommendation or judgement are the ones where the youth are already growing up within the warzone.

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  1. the words "futile" and "wars" were separate anchors, although either anchor could have covered both words in terms of "futile wars" being equally valid, by the conceit of hindsight
  2. you seem happier to express any derision, once you've found some sufficiently impolite expression; I prefer accuracy, at the cost of sometimes remaining silent. Silence does not imply approval, although it definitely gets interpreted as such by overconfident fools.
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Where in my comment did you find anything that you consider "state propaganda"? "Wikipedia" ?
I guess you might have automatically responded that before even reading anything I wrote. It would be consistent with how you apparently harass shitcoiners.
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the whole post show it very clearly
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well thanks for your honesty. you might someday find that I'm less effectively brainwashed than you expect, although obviously anyone who didn't crawl out of the dirt in the placental wilderness around your citadel has suffered some amount of propaganda.