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100 sats \ 2 replies \ @ZezzebbulTheMysterious 3h \ parent \ on: Peter Wuille post about dropping OP_RETURN limit bitcoin
“ yeah, bitcoin can be abused, so we legalize the abuse”. It’s already “legal” in this analogy.
“ it's obviously not given when looking at the current fee market, and which specific demand anyway” Current is not future. Things can change quickly. Good engineering needs to anticipate future conditions.
“ fee estimation is not a computer science problem and not something a node can do for users in the first place, and certainly not a reason to relay spam” Why isn’t it a computer science problem?. Many many new cryptoeconomic and distributed computer science concepts are being invented from Satoshis discovery. Calculation of optimal fees in a decentralized mempools in distributed ledgers is absolutely an emerging computer science problem, and will be studied in academic contexts for years to come.
“ that's the point of filtering spam, to slow down the propagation”. But it doesn’t. It’s in the block. I would encourage you to learn more about how clients handle the peer to peer traffic for tx and block propagation. It’s not as simple as an ultimately non controversial single client-side flag.
“bitcoin is a censor ship resistant monetary system, not file storage or database system”. I agree with you here, however the way to achieve this is through economic incentives, not through arbitrary filters. Do you see the irony of asking for censorship resistance while arguing for filters?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @LibreHans 3h
  • "It's already legal", yeah, so the core argument is that core devs were wrong for the last decade, and have finally understood filters.
  • "anticipate future conditions", indeed, they are doing guesswork and selling it as good engineering, but they have lost my trust. Knots is also doing some guesswork but looks more attractive to me by now
  • "Why isn’t it a computer science problem?" Estimating fees needs knowledge of the future, or a risk based prediction, users have to be educated if they want to solve this, they can't rely on a machine. And RBF.
  • "Do you see the irony of asking for censorship resistance while arguing for filters?", me not transmitting a message is not censorship, and nobody wants to censor financial transactions
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ZezzebbulTheMysterious 3h
You are welcome to run bcash or knots or whatever alternative client you like.
Don't complain to us when it breaks.
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