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Plato had the allegory of the cave. Today, however, the allegory concerns the horse race.
There is a Sheikh in our story who wants to hold a contest among his fine horses. He has sixty such beautiful animals, and he wants to have a race among them as he feels they all have an equal chance of winning as they are all great animals. He, being a Sheikh, wants to open the race up for betting because his Sheikh lifestyle is not going to pay for itself and he does, after all, have these sixty animals to upkeep. He decides to set the purse at around 100 million dollars to attract the high rollers.
Since the race is fair and any horse has an equal chance of winning, the odds on any one horse winning is 1 out of 60. This means that a given horse has about a 1 percent chance of winning. It is closer to 1.6 percent, but the .6 percent does little good should you happen to win because of it. Why? Well it is an irrational .6 percent that repeats. You won’t keep winning, but everyone will argue. Better to stick with the 1 percent, right?
These are not very good odds of winning, so the Sheikh decides to change the terms of the contest. There will be eleven winners, he decrees, with one of those winners winning the grand prize purse of 100 million dollars. The other ten will win 1 million dollars. This changes the odds significantly--as one might imagine. One now has an 11 out of 60 chance to win some money. That is an eighteen percent chance of winning some serious cash! Not bad, for millions of dollars. Depending on the cost to enter, these are probably better odds than one has of getting a million dollars by opening their own business.
Before the race starts, the Sheikh allows the public to see his horses. Not all of them are in the shape that he had portrayed them being. Several of them have a limp. A couple more are overweight. Still another has a jockey who is too heavy to be riding the mount he is assigned to.
This information, to the experienced, influences the odds again. Information, it turns out, can change the odds of a given calculation as Marilyn Vos Savant famously pointed out. This, of course, depends on how you want to look at doing the calculating, but if you are interested in the best odds of winning, and not being right about calculating, then there is a decisive strategy.
Our Sheikh, then, has, it seems, ruled out certain horses as sharing characteristics of likely being possessed by the winning horse. This improves the odds greatly--maybe as high as to a 30 percent chance of winning as certain horses can be ruled out.
There is one enterprising fellow, though, who decides to bet on two horses. He bases this decision on the original odds of his having a 2 out of 60 chance of winning on a single horse. This gives him around a 3 percent chance of winning, but when the new rules are factored in, he has around a 36 percent chance of winning some amount of money. These are good odds indeed, and so long as the entry for each horse is below $500,000, he stands to make something back.
The Sheikh races his horses. When the early results arrive, we find that the man who put in two horses has placed in the top ten! Not only has he placed in the top ten, but BOTH HORSES have placed there! What are the odds? Let’s find out. To discover the odds of both horses the man bet on winning, we have to multiply the probabilities. 11/60 x 11/60 is equal to about three percent. Our handy odds table https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK126161/table/T21/ shows that to be about a 1 in 3000 chance. (This, incidentally, is about the same odds as being possibly killed by a meteorite impact or having your home burn down: https://stacker.com/stories/art-culture/odds-50-random-events-happening-you) Therefore, the man placing with both horses was about as likely as his winning the grand prize purse by entering two horses as per the original terms of the race! Put in negative terms, the man is going to lose his bet on his two horses, 97 percent of the time!
This, of course, makes the horse betters suspicious. At the very least the two horses that have placed ought to be in possession of the top characteristics to horses expected to win the race. It turns out that they are not especially prime specimens. To be sure, they are not bad, but there is nothing at all special about them. They don’t stand out.
The Sheikh goes on to announce the grand prize winner, and indeed, this horse possesses the characteristics that one expects from a champion horse. The problem, though, is that the two horses that placed did so such that other horses that clearly had the characteristics of being pedigreed winners in the contest placed not at all. The incredible thing is not what horse won the grand prize, but the fact that the man who bet on two horses won on both horses--neither of which had the characteristics that the other non-placing horses clearly possessed. One of those winning horses that the man had bet on had a limp, in fact, and looked to be disqualified from racing.
The conclusion that presents itself is something about the contest had some hidden information that the man who bet on the two horses knew. Barring a miraculous intervention, since God does not often seem to get heavily involved in games of chance, what could explain what it was the man who bet on the two horses knew or noticed? In a very real way, despite the grand prize winner winning more money, betting on two not especially stellar horses and winning on both is the real prize. Was the contest fair? Did all horses really have an equal chance of winning? Were the optics of the race manipulated by the Sheikh? Were false reports put out? Is there favoritism in the judges of the race?
The moral to the story is simply this--if you trust a Sheikh to run a horse race you might find yourself poorer--that is--unless you know the Sheikh.
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30 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 4h
I suspect what really biased the top ten horses were that they were well-known horses and when people came to visit them in their stables, before and after the race, they did tricks for them. The sheikh may have made a mistake of letting these visits to the stables influence the race, because the sheikh's normal races are not about winning but camaraderie.
Definitely don't trust a sheikh, and especially don't trust that they're infallible, but I wouldn't assume they're malicious and meddling when the results could be just as well explained by a flaw in the race design.
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10 sats \ 5 replies \ @Scoresby 1h
The problem with this allegory is that horse races are rarely subjective. There is a finish line and each horse's nose passes the finish line at a distinct moment. We can all argue about it ties and such, but there at least are clear finishing times.
A more apt analogy would be a horse beauty pageant.
So let us imagine you are the Sheikh and you host this equine beauty contest. You must decide which horse is the most beautiful. But what makes a horse beautiful? The color of it's coat? The luster of it's mane? The shape of it's bones? How would you decide the winners?
Would it be solely up to your taste? After all, you are the Sheikh and it is you who have put up the prize money.
Perhaps you would like to see more than one winner, and recognizing that you yourself may have -- shall we say...odd taste when it comes to the beauty of horses, you might caste around for some other method by which to choose the winners.
What method would you choose?
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The nose of the horse crossing the line is not the metric by which a horse wins the race. There are many ways to be disqualified and still have the nose cross the line, objectively, before others.
Supposing we adopt your allegory, though, I'd probably want someone who was very familiar with horses and what constitutes "The Good" where horses are involved. Otherwise, it comes down to people who are not very familiar with horses and their attributes, perhaps, and this proves problematic. People begin to select things on personal taste when this is so, more than actual craft.
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But, you would award all 11 prizes based on the opinions of this crafty judge, rather than by some other more impersonal metric?
What if you didn't agree with the judge's opinions?
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Usually, there is a panel of judges, and they typically can agree, if they are qualified, on what is "The Good".
If you don't agree with the other judge's opinion, then it might be good in the contest to put what the final tallies were--not necessarily which one belonged to whom--but to have some transparency in the contest so the people who entered horses have an idea of what's up. This is why the Supreme Court of the US publishes an opinion with the votes, and in that instance, names.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 44m
And what would you do in the case where before the contest began, the Sheikh clearly announced to everyone that he would use a zap-genie from a magic lamp to pick ten horses?
Should the Sheikh have changed the rules when it came time for judging?
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And what would you do in the case where before the contest began, the Sheikh clearly announced to everyone that he would use a zap-genie from a magic lamp to pick ten horses?
Announce that due to the number of entries and unexpected volume, the deciding factor of the contest would have to be decided by zaps differently--as I suggested elsewhere perhaps by withholding all zaps until after the contest is over but before it was decided. Zero out the existing zaps and treat them like they didn't happen--sucks for the people who voted but sometimes democracy rattles along in ways were recounts happen.
Should the Sheikh have changed the rules when it came time for judging?
Yes, at the point it became clear the contest was going to be huge. Now there are people coming in who don't have the kinds of relationships in the channel that others do, perhaps. Writers come out of the woodwork for writing, since so few people ever ask them to. They are, by nature, a reclusive lot.
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @billytheked 2h
this reminded me of recent events which I already commented on in this territory and in which most who were involved agreed --i suspect-- was controversial and which i think deserves a level of tolerance since --dare i say it-- we are still so early (?) the contest i am referring to at the cost of being too presumptuous was the first of its kind so some friction is to be expected
on another note im cooking up plans for a value added proposition in the muse which ill come out with shortly
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Why, contest? Whoever heard of such! I do declare!
edited: One thing that I think could work is to DELAY the zaps till after the contest is closed, but before it is decided. Then, popularity could be a factor by zaps, but not a deciding factor.
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...... what is this.... you're trying to mess with my mind.
basically all the math is wrong and off haha, but told in a way that might be convincing to someone who (honestly) just sucks at probability
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Well maybe you want to enlighten me since you are better at it.
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I thought you knew and it was deliberate
Since the race is fair and any horse has an equal chance of winning, the odds on any one horse winning is 1 out of 60. This means that a given horse has about a 1 percent chance of winning. It is closer to 1.6 percent, but the .6 percent does little good should you happen to win because of it. Why? Well it is an irrational .6 percent that repeats. You won’t keep winning, but everyone will argue. Better to stick with the 1 percent, right?
this paragraph is a dead giveaway
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That part was deliberate.
edit: It occurs to me you might want to better understand an allegory and what it means.
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why so hostile? I hope my comment about probability did not come across as accusatory, I liked the piece. I thought this tale was an allegory about imprecise thinking about numerical odds.
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I'm not hostile. The allegory is about what you walk away with having read the tale. I'm glad you took something away from it.
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also, just to explain my original comment a bit...
it does feel head-spinning, but in a good way (because I assume it is meant to be absurdist?) It's head-spinning because the mathematics is presented as accurate by the narrator when they clearly aren't (deliberately so I presume), the characters in the tale also take the odds as accurate (when they shouldn't), they act on those odds and interpret the results in strange ways, and then the narrator draws some true wisdom out of the story (watch out for hidden information, not all horses have equal chance, etc)
The resulting package is one that toes the line between plausible and absurd. So, good job! (If that's what you were going for)
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An allegory, by definition, is a tale meant to indicate a larger truth.