We are assuming the user is trying to stream pirated movies and this code is injected via an ad or something (oddly specific I know)

Anyway, its always fun to read: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6506518/javascript-how-to-read-local-file

This solution was particularly fun to read:

Find below the activeX script to read a local file. (works fine in IE).

    var fso = new ActiveXObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject");
    //specify the local path to Open
    var file = fso.OpenTextFile("C:\\your path\\ filename", 1);
    var fileContent = file.ReadAll();
    file.Close();

    //Parse the contents
    // ex: if the content is in JSON format
    var obj = eval('(' + fileContent+ ')');

    for (var i = 0; i < obj.length; i++) {
        //Access each element
        alert(obj[i].name);
    }

"But this is patched out! Everyone uses chrome or edge now. IE is deprecated and so is ActiveX!"

Yeah well we use old vulnerabilities to guess what the new vulnerabilities might look like in the future (a lot of vulnerabilities are the same mistakes made in new code) If you're really looking for a 0 day just to be convinced not to put money in your browser maybe go to 0 day today or something lmao

Looking through CVEs can be informative too: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1224/product_id-15031/Google-Chrome.html

It also usually isn't 1 exploit and everything is gone. A lot of exploits that get an attacker a foothold might be written off as "yeah but they don't have admin privileges" for example, but getting admin privileges is a different step. "Privilege escalation"

The hacker methodology for those who don't know is

Planning

Footprinting - Getting information about the target without interacting with the target system. (Looking up who works at a company on social media for example)

Scanning - Using what was learned during footprinting to gain more information in a direct way. Typically port scanning, but in social engineering, this would be asking an employee questions, or people who know that employee questions about the employee

Enumeration - Deconstructing information gained during the scanning phase to determine a useful exploit that might be performed on the target. In social engineering, this would be figuring out based on the questions you asked the employee, how they might respond to certain situations.

Exploitation

System hacking - This is where you perform the exploit. You are not on the computer or in general have access to the system. Again, do not limit this to remote access. This could be physical access.

Escalation of privilege - This is where you gain higher level permissions on the target system

Post Exploitation

Covering Tracks - Erasing and planting false logs on the target system to hide that you're there

Planting backdoors - Allows for you to easily get back into the system without going through all the previous steps.

After one system is exploited, the process starts over to attempt to gain access to the next system within the same network or otherwise connected to the same system.

If you post about your money on social media, this enables the footprinting phase If you are comfortable talking openly about yourself, this enables the scanning phase (at least in terms of social engineering) If you react without thinking, knowledge that you react in this way would be gained during the enumeration phase.

I was going to talk about extra vulnerabilities browser extensions can create, but I'll save that for a different time.

So anyway, as you can see, when I think about my security, I might think about how it could have been done with an older version of software, partly because people may still be running old software, but also because if we know about an exploit, it gets patched. So instead, I might look to old vulnerabilities to inform myself for what to look for in new code, or if I can't do a code review, I might apply general security practices that can help me even if I were running old known vulnerable software because it keeps me the most safe. There have been so many browser exploits over the years in particular, that it should be general practice at this point, not to do anything web related that would have consequences that are too dire if it were exploited.

Well I didn't mean you put a keylogger in your code, I just meant someone could visit a website that has a keylogger and then keylog a cashu token in order to take money.

The larger point being "Yo can we stop trying to put our money in web browsers?" lol

I was going to write a whole post about how it is so so so much worse than this, but then I decided I didn't want to give anyone any ideas lmao

Is it centralized if anyone can run an instance? We don't call LNbits centralized, do we? Or web servers.

So i could mint totoro coin for my totoro market, people use sats to convert to totoro coin and trade goods all day in totoro market...and then convert their totoro coin at end of day back to sats when they want to exit. Is that right? Is it like a casino with chips essentially ?

I still value cashu more than Fedimint. It is strange that on the one hand federations are welcomed on the other they are evil like in Liquid (i am fine with both).