What a fantastic episode. The dynamic between Fiatjaf and the others was unexpected. Fiatjaf is obviously concerned that nostr will be pigeonholed and marginalized as a bitcoin social network. He prefers that all payment methods be used on nostr, with the goal of normies being stealth orange pilled. The pushback from the others was almost dismissive of Fiatjaf. I expected more deference to the Satoshi like inventor. I really enjoyed the push and pull.