51 sats \ 4 replies \ @ln123 28 Dec 2022 \ on: What's your opinion on Umbrel? bitcoin
More of a fan of Start 9 myself - since v0.33 it's now available on more hardware devices and Nextcloud support is forthcoming.
Please tell me more about Start 9. Is it free? And what are the pros and cons of this node software and is it any good (or better than Umbrel)
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Yes, Start 9 is free / open source and very easy to use. The team behind it are keen to do things slowly / securely / properly, which is why it doesn't have so many apps as Umbrel right now.
One example benefit is that the Embassy works locally over https (SSL). If you are using Umbrel, you better trust your local network, as all your traffic / passwords etc are going to be completely visible to everyone else - see: https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel/issues/546
I quote from the issue above:
This is pretty much the industry standard and how every consumer router or smart device that exposes a web interface work.
It is true that a lot of consumer routers serve their admin panels over http HOWEVER they are not running Bitcoin or Password managers!! Nor is the fact that "everyone else is doing it" an excuse for sloppy security.
By the way, you can also run Embassy on an X86 laptop / PC, for supercharged performance: https://github.com/Start9Labs/embassy-os/releases
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Damn I really didn't know my Bitcoin node will be visible to my local network and I will definitely try out Embassy OS on my PC. Thanks for giving me insight and I will tip you 100 satoshis.
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Second the recommendation for Start9 over Umbrel if you'd rather pay some money so things just work with minimal effort. Umbrel and Citadel are great products "for the price"
I have used Umbrel, Start9, and also just a linux computer and individually ran all the apps. Start9 is best of all. Its sort of like having your tech friend set up an Umbrel custom for you and give you support if you get stuck.
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