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Is Betanet the future for Stacker News (and everything else)?youtu.be/L1Hjen1tEas?si=CZ6l7XS-kmjG2i7z
407 sats \ 17 comments \ @siggy47 20 Aug tech
My non-techy self loves the idea of a whole new internet embracing privacy. I don't know if this is the way, but I'd like someone who understands this better to explain it, if you are so inclined.
I imagine Stacker News running on Betanet.
Can this change the world?
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229 sats \ 14 replies \ @k00b 20 Aug
From the spec:
Betanet is a fully decentralised, censorship-resistant network intended to replace the public Internet. This revision finalises covert transport indistinguishability, removes linkability vectors, specifies liveness for naming, hardens governance and bootstrap economics, and standardises adaptive calibration.
First of all: that's a lot of buzz words and adjectives, batman, which is not very becoming of a "spec."
fully decentralized
Doubtful. Especially if there's "governance".
public Internet
This can mean a lot of things, but I'm guessing they mean direct use of IP-addresses and DNS, which they should just say.
tbh seems overcooked to me and I smell bullshit. Wake me up when there's working code.
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50 sats \ 4 replies \ @kepford 20 Aug
My son sent me the video last week. Have the same feeling about it.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 20 Aug
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 20 Aug
FWIW he sensed BS too. But there were so many buzzwords he didn't know he asked me about it.
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3 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 20 Aug
These buzzword guys are the worst. They catfish all kinds of people. They are so good at it though that I wish they could discover the thrill of suffering through honesty.
We need some kind of matchmaking service for these Steve Jobs types to meet their Wozniak.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 20 Aug
Ha! That's funny.
I do think one can train themselves to sense when they are being fed bull. I get this sense in other areas besides technology. But, sense I don't have the base knowledge I'm never as confident about it.
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36 sats \ 3 replies \ @brunenzio 20 Aug
I'm not very well versed in this type of things, but I got the same feeling by reading the GitHub readme.
In any case, I am curious about the issue in itself. Would it really be possible to have a new decentralised version of the internet which does not rely on the already established infrastructure? That would be very cool.
This is in my to-read list since forever.
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36 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 20 Aug
does not rely on the already established infrastructure
I assume you mean doesn't entirely rely on the already established infrastructure. There's a lot of baby in the bath water. The place to start is deciding what is bath water and what isn't.
If you're interest in this, I recommend Designing an Internet which recounts the history of internet design, the mistakes they made, and how the author (someone involved in making the internet) would redesign it if they could.
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50 sats \ 1 reply \ @brunenzio 20 Aug
Thanks for the reference, I'll try to push it on the top of my reading list ;-)
Concerning the baby and the bath water, I was actually referring to the physical infrastructure more than anything else. I would like to know if there's even just a remote possibility to have a different way to "do internet".
I remember some time ago there was a sort of thing that tried to make an internet with computer connected through a sort of mesh network, but I don't remember neither the name nor of it actually was tested in real life.
However, I fear the subject is more complex than I can digest with my background and time. Let's hope more prepared and efficient people get interested in this.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 20 Aug
Fixing/replacing the physical (atoms) is harder than the digital (bits), but it's possible. The dream is something like HAM radio level autonomy/sovereignty, but most of our high bandwidth wireless tech that operates over long distances requires line of sight.
So if physical wires/optics are the problem, we'll need to incentivize high density citizen run wireless mesh, or have a tech breakthrough that makes things like roll-your-own cell towers affordable to you and me.
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @siggy47 OP 20 Aug
Okay. This is what I was looking for. Next...
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72 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 20 Aug
This kind of reminds me of some folks I encountered that told me they were going to build a new operating system (yet didn't know how to code even a fart app).
At least in part, I suspect betanet might be a symptom of ChatGPT world.
Yes, greg, you are the next tech messiah. You will bring the world a new internet.
Would you like me to help you write a spec for it? Or maybe you'd like to go back to talking about how your mother looked at you?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 OP 20 Aug
So this is what happens when non coders discover AI? We can expect more of this, I guess.
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 20 Aug
It's dunning kruger on steroids.
I met a lady whose daughter vibed a new rocket propulsion system with novel physics and was convinced that once she could get Elon's attention it would become a reality.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @LibertasBR 20 Aug
As a layman, I don't understand why there are so few operating systems. Linux has many distributions, but they aren't entirely new operating systems, in my opinion. I've read that the justification is that it's too laborious and expensive to develop, and that developers need to pay attention to ensure applications for this OS exist. It's a case of "We already have good, functional systems, so why make more?"
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @Oxy 20 Aug
I'm the 0.0001% tech savvy person so the protocols being thrown here, I pray I'm able to catch some
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @YewTuBot 2h freebie
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