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Ask SN: What's the easiest way to sell something via LN?

144 sats \ 31 comments \ @avg 6 Feb 2022 bitcoin

Since Openbazaar is no more, how do you sell stuff without relying on Shopify or a self-hosted Wordpress server?

121 sats \ 9 replies \ @kr 7 Feb 2022

the fact that there are 5 comments with 5 different answers tells me the winning solution here probably doesn't yet exist.

Big opportunity for someone to build self-hosted merchant tools for billions of people.

Could also see Square making some big moves in this arena soon.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @earnbitcoin 7 Feb 2022

the winning solution here probably doesn't yet exist.

It exists. It's called Amazon, it's called Shopify, it's called eBay, and it's called Alibaba.

They just aren't onboard with bitcoin and LN yet. Shopify is the closest, as they allow some bitcoin payment processors. The others, don't hold your breath.

The problem with self-hosted is ... where are your customers coming from? The online cart and payments are pretty much the tiniest problem for e-commerce. Getting listed in the search results on Amazon, eBay, Alibaba, etc. are why merchants use them.

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10 sats \ 5 replies \ @phaedrus 7 Feb 2022

Or Stacker.news making some big moves into this arena;-)

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @earnbitcoin 7 Feb 2022

Slide #7 of SN Pitch deck:

Marketplace/commerce oriented substacks

[RFC] Stacker News Pitch Deck Draft #2
#5033
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1rOl2I1nXOz0DR7W6M8aSb054wF3m57ZUjUSZ8-AvruA/edit?usp=sharing

But I've no idea if there's anything in progress. Do you? Or does @k00b have anything to add?

5 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 7 Feb 2022

Nothing in progress yet, but it's definitely something we'll be exploring.

My first crack at this will be when I start selling SN merch. We'll see.

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14 sats \ 7 replies \ @k00b 6 Feb 2022

Don't shopify and the other SaaS e-commerce sites have plugins for bitcoin/lightning payments? If so, why not use them?

You could use pleb pay? On the other side of the paywall you have a google form for the person to put their mailing address ... They'd have to trust you to actually deliver your product but it'd work.

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @phaedrus 7 Feb 2022

LNBits plugin for WordPress: https://wordpress.org/plugins/lightning-payment-gateway-lnbits/

You can start with custodial LNBits.com (very easy to set up), and later switch to your own LNBits (ie on Umbrel), just by pointing it to a different url.

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @earnbitcoin 7 Feb 2022

To accept cryptocurrencies, enable one or more of the following alternative payment methods from the Payment providers page of your Shopify admin:

Coinbase Commerce
BitPay
CoinPayments.net

Shopify Help Center > Alternative payments > Cryptocurrency
https://help.shopify.com/en/manual/payments/alternative-payments/cryptocurrency

2 sats \ 1 reply \ @earnbitcoin 7 Feb 2022

None of those support LN. Coinbase and BitPay are anti-bitcoin, and LN cuts into Coinbase's business model (where they would rather have you trade your BTC into shitcoins than to spend it) so don't expect LN support from them anytime soon.