Gave it a listen, great talk! Was cool hearing the behind the scenes rivalries of the various emerging methods of putting tokens on Lightning.

pod page: https://share.transistor.fm/s/17f637a8

we discuss a whole lot of topics:

bitkit wallet
bitcoin toolkit
hypercore
tether
tokens on lightning
taro
lnurl
bolt 12
web of trust
stacker news
lnmarkets
history of tokens on bitcoin
colored coins
alby wallet
counterparty
omni
bitfinex
rgb
keet
ldk
lnd
creating a vision
business development
complexity
maximalism
predictions for the bear market
pleblab
abc meetup
austin scene