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Pew Research Center discovered that 43 percent of Gen Z respondents support phasing out oil, natural gas, and coal. Climate change is their top concern, and any energy source that doesn’t (purport to) resolve it is scorned.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
Gen Z is retarded/has been brainwashed into the green agenda. That's OK... for now; they have no influence, and they're young. The backlash against all things woke and green is underway, and they will learn.
No, civilization cannot run on renewables unreliables
Put differently:

Fossil fuels are amazing

Compact, dense, at our service, mobile, non-volatile, and performs all manner of (primary) energy needs we need it to. Nothing else does.
Says Alex Rosado for The Daily Economy,
Fossil fuels are vital for domestic economic stability, as they boost state revenue and public offerings. Internationally, energy dominance is crucial for safeguarding national security and shaping foreign policy objectives.
What I don't like about the article is that it's too defeatist. It's saying "oooh, well fossil industry is good because of jobs and tax revenue." And I certainly don't approve of the author arguing that we need fossil fuels to wage war. FUCK OFF, DUDE! (Enough of a stupid statement right there to make me turn green on the spot.)
Also: NO, that's not why the fossil industry is good; it's good because it provides cheap, abundant, viable, and workable energy -- the VERY CORNERSTONE that allows modern society to work.
The graph he includes is also completely the wrong one:
That's electricity, which is only one (minor) part of energy use. Here it looks like we only need a few more decades of the green revolution to hit the turning point where renewables > fossil fuels.
That will never happen. First, because primary energy matters and there renewables haven't moved in thirty years. Second, because green shite has already hit basically the maximum that the grids can support. They're done; they can't grow much more.

"The United States has achieved remarkable energy independence through domestic fossil fuel production, positioning us to compete effectively overseas."

Lol they will once their phones can't charge and the servers holding their tiktok videos switch off
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Yup. Reality binds, and ideology blinds
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124 sats \ 2 replies \ @Macoy31 4h
This was a fiery post — and I get the frustration. But I think the conversation needs more nuance. Yes, fossil fuels currently power the world. They're dense, efficient, and underpin everything from transport to agriculture. But at the same time, Gen Z's concern about climate is valid — especially as they look ahead at ecological tipping points they didn’t create. The real question isn’t “Fossil fuels good vs. green bad,” but how do we transition responsibly without collapsing economies or destroying ecosystems. Maybe Gen Z’s role isn’t to reject fossil fuels outright, but to push for a smarter long-term energy mix — one that includes nuclear, better grids, and yes, still some fossil fuels where needed. Cheap energy matters. So does breathable air.
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I really appreciate the balanced take here. You're right — this isn't a black-and-white issue. Gen Z didn’t create the current system, but they’re inheriting its consequences. It makes sense for them to question how we move forward.
Fossil fuels have powered growth, but the challenge now is to innovate our way toward sustainability without causing energy poverty or economic collapse. A smarter mix like you said with nuclear, renewables, improved storage, and even cleaner fossil use where necessary, might be the best path.
Breathable air and affordable energy shouldn’t be a trade-off. Gen Z might just be the generation to finally balance both
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Cheap energy matters. So does breathable air.
That I can, and do, agree with.
Don't think it therefore follows that
Gen Z's concern about climate is valid — especially as they look ahead at ecological tipping points they didn’t create.
I'd sooner believe in Jesus than scary-sounding "tipping points", and Gen Zers have definitely not thought about energy deeply enough to have such a strong opinion
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interesting the things the political establishment cedes ground on: overwhelmingly-politicized hot button issues that are distracting and carry little economic impact, save for the cantillionaire nephews and sons-in-law that stand to gain from the 'winning' the contracts. green energy, gender ideology, and other distractions. distractions with nefarious design.
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38 sats \ 1 reply \ @Aardvark 9h
I don't mind Gen Z thinking that, so long as they are pro nuclear. It's the obvious choice.
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Yes, but same error: only for electricity
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If we can win the "CO2 is good, actually" battle, then there's really no argument against hydrocarbon fuels. Their waste products are CO2 (plant food) and water vapor (cloud food).
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Yup, much better battle than this defeatist weakness
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Denying climate change is selfish, irrational, dangerous and delusional.
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For a more compassionate, scientific and logic based viewpoint that acknowledges the reality and rapidly looming consequences of climate change and adaption see-
Irrational climate change denying Libertarian lunatics discredit themselves and all of their ideas, some of which are of value, by continuing to deny climate change.
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Ah, jezus. I knew I had you muted for a reason.
Tell me more about these supposed "rapidly looming consequences of climate change"
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Its already happening here in New Zealand and globally.
Do you expect to be taken seriously on anything you write when you appear completely deaf dumb and blind to the massive disasters that have already occurred and occur with increasing frequency and ferocity involving loss of lives and homes globally?
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Climate change deniers are retarded, amoral dinosaurs.
Libertarians Need To Deal with the reality of Climate Change or remain marginalised drill and burn death cult nutters ignored by all reasonable and informed people.
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