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The "War on Tourism"

"We think tourist demand is unstoppable," a Barcelona deputy mayor told CNN in March. "Everyone is welcome. But there's a limit. The only possibility is to control the supply."

The main friction it causes

Perhaps the most common and disruptive antitourism measure is banning short-term vacation rentals such as Airbnbs. The practice of converting long-term apartments into short-term rentals, which can be a lucrative option for property owners, is often blamed for raising housing costs and shutting residents out of desirable central neighborhoods.

The proposed solution: regulation (ugh!)

More than 20 European nations offer digital nomad visas or other visas that are accessible to remote-working professionals. So do such expat favorites as Panama, Bali, Thailand, and Colombia. Tiny Caribbean island nations, bustling Asian economies, and some of the world's most populous countries have all joined in.

Is it really needed?

Visas haven't been necessary to legitimize the digital nomad lifestyle. But they could be an antidote to overtourism. Digital nomadism "offers a steady income stream throughout the year, reducing dependence on peak tourism seasons," wrote Cabo Verde's secretary of state for digital economy last year. "Digital nomads often stay longer and spend more locally than traditional tourists, creating a more sustainable economic model."

As a nomad (both "digital" and as a roaming problem solver) I feel that whenever I don't have to be some place to solve a problem, which is about 80% of my time, I don't want to spend this time like a tourist or in touristy areas. I generally want good service infrastructure (internet, restaurants, food/grocery delivery, actual roads also help) but the only non-negotiables are the internet connection and either of delivery or restaurants, as these are enablers of productivity. Large cities aren't enablers of productivity in the digital and are often outrageously priced, so no, I don't want to be in Denver, Barcelona, Amsterdam or NYC if I can help it. I go there for short gigs but that's it. Suburbs of those places are often okay in terms of facilities and relative quiet, but often overpriced so I avoid them too.
Therefore, this is very hard to regulate without exact intel on where someone is going to stay and having dynamic policies. I think that overall, on top of the enshittification of AirBnB's offerings since the end of covid, the digital nomadic life has become tougher and will continue to deteriorate.
206 sats \ 5 replies \ @Scoresby 6h
I've run airbnbs and I've stayed in a lot if them. Except for a few duds, the experience has been so much better than traditional hotels, there is no comparison.
Backlash against strs feels like more nimbyism and I'm incredibly skeptical that it will result is the claimed outcomes.
I wouldn't have been able to buy a house in Seattle if we weren't able to increase our income by renting half of it out on airbnb.
I travel with my kids. Staying in a traditional hotel is incredibly expensive when you have to book three rooms everywhere you go. Renting a 2br or 3br apartment with a kitchen is such a better deal.
However, we also avoid really big/popular cities.
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I feel that pre- and during covid, if you were renting a place on airbnb from a non-pro host you had a good chance to get a nice well kept place. Specifically because people did what you describe: split off a place, or rent out inherited property. Post-covid, it feels like everyone puts their place for rent for exorbitant amounts of money, rents a cheaper place for themselves for the duration - more of a hustle? Not sure if that makes sense.
For me personally, it takes me much longer now to find a good place for a good price than 4-5 years ago. Also because I rent for 1-3 months often.
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103 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 3h
Longer duration is much more difficult. We've found 4-6 weeks is a sweet spot. Had pretty good luck in the last few years.
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We've found 4-6 weeks is a sweet spot.
As a host or as a guest?
4 weeks is too little for me because I'd lose too much time to travel, especially if I have some gigs in the middle, so for me, 4-5 weeks is the exception... twice a year maybe as a bridging solution. I've personally found that 3x3 months and then some time between them filled with a vacay, and some gig work where I don't have a base and kindly request to dump my suitcase with family or friends for a few weeks works best.
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107 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 5h
I wouldn't have been able to buy a house in Seattle if we weren't able to increase our income by renting half of it out on airbnb.
Smart. I've often thought that would be a great idea.
And that way (correct me if I'm wrong), you don't get caught by the regulation that forbids AirBnBs, because you are living in the same house. I believe much of the regulation is caused by the fact that sometimes people hold huge parties in these houses, and the neighbors complain.
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26 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby 4h
Every city is different, but at the time, we were exempt from most regulations because we lived in the house (owner occupied).
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204 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 8h
Agree. A lot of those places (Bali and Thailand) I'd love to visit with the family but having second thoughts because of the tax grab. It's not like we want to go to the tourist areas. We prefer something more quiet and get more of an organic experience.
I remember seeing graffiti in Barcelona in 2020 for tourists to get out. Maybe they can get away it, but tourist economies like Thailand and Bali might be shooting themselves in the foot.
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Barcelona used to be my favorite getaway place 2 decades ago, before it was everyone's favorite. Now, I don't go there for vacay at all. It imho has gotten out of hand.
But if this means that the entirety of Spain becomes hard to visit, I think that that's a bad outcome.
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106 sats \ 3 replies \ @BlokchainB 2h
I saw videos of riots in Mexico City wanting the rich gringos out.
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Expats or tourists?
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98 sats \ 1 reply \ @BlokchainB 29m
Expats
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Interesting. Expats on average spend tons more money than locals on average - but maybe this is different in Mexico City.
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105 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 5h
Where are your favorite digital nomad locations, if you don't like Denver, Barcelona, Amsterdam or NYC?
Years ago my family visited Japan for 3 weeks, staying in 3 separate AirBnBs for one week each, all around the country. It was a fantastic trip, the AirBnBs were relatively cheap, we could cook at home, etc.
About 6 months after we traveled there, the government cracked down HARD on AirBnBs. They had to apply for one of a very limited set of permits available.
A WSJ article at the time, said that it was a result of lobbying by the hotel industry.
I'll bet that's what's happening now, as well - not really an organic grass roots "anti-tourist" movement, but a astro-turf movement, funded by hotels.
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Nice try fed. Lol.
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It could be a common practice nowadays unfortenally.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Akg10s3 6h
I liked the term "The War on Tourism"... I think the world's population, despite the fact that wonderful new places continue to be created or discovered, is more inclined to choose places where their own language, or at least a similar one, is spoken.
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