Hi everyone,
I’m Julian Fahrer, CEO and Co-Founder of Apollo. We’re a bitcoin-only startup that launched in October, and we’re building a marketplace for user reviews of bitcoin products and services.
Excited to be here and take your questions!

About Us

The founding team is:
Our background is a mix of tradfi and tech: I spent the last few years working in Silicon Valley; Sahil and Tom both have experience in institutional asset management and working in / building fintech startups.

Why we started Apollo

Our mission is to increase bitcoin adoption. Specifically, we’re focused on mitigating problems of bad information i.e. an industry polluted by ‘crypto’ deception, and a media landscape engineered to confuse and overwhelm new joiners to the network.
It’s getting harder to separate signal from noise. But we think high quality, reliable user reviews of products and services can help reverse this trend.
So we’re building a new kind of market for information, on Bitcoin and Lightning. A sats-based economy that incentivizes and rewards honest, reliable, and valuable P2P communication.

How Apollo works today - and where it’s going

We see three potential sides to the ‘market’ for product reviews: Readers, Reviewers, and Companies.

For Reviewers

Initially we’ve built for Reviewers, and tried to incentivize their engagement with the platform. We pay 1000 sats for every review we publish (i.e. which meets our Review Guidelines). For various reasons, we plan on reducing this upfront reward over time (more on that below).

For Readers

We also have a couple of features that are designed to incentivize ‘high quality’ reviews. That is, to reward Reviewers for writing reviews that Readers find helpful:
  1. Upvotes - by upvoting a review, you send 10 sats from your account to the review author. The better your review, the more likely it is to be upvoted, and the more sats you’ll earn.
  2. Bounties - We’ve also put 100 sat ‘Bounties’ on reviews we judge to be the ‘most helpful’. As a Reader, you can earn sats by voting on which you think are likely to have bounties i.e. which you yourself judge most helpful. You get a 100 sat reward for correctly guessing and upvoting a Bountied Review.

For Companies

The third side is Companies, i.e. those whose products and services we’ve listed. We don’t honestly know yet what the right model for partnering with them is. Right now we’re committed to not doing anything that undermines the integrity of the platform / anything which will obviously bias reviews. Which means:
  • No ‘pay to play’ partnerships with companies, accepting payment for preferential listing, etc
  • No affiliate links
  • No ads
  • No selling of user data to third parties
We’re excited about building a new sats-based economy, and nurturing this organic marketplace. Not clipping tickets.
What kind of business models can emerge from that? The honest answer is we don’t fully know yet.

What’s next

  • Re-design: The website is very much an MVP, and we know it doesn’t look that pretty yet :)
  • Experimenting with incentive models: we’ve got a few ideas about how to keep improving the experience for Readers and Reviewers. Lots of little experiments.
  • Adding new products & categories: we field requests for new companies constantly. We’re trying to keep up, and add the ones that make sense!
As mentioned above, we’re trying to get the incentive structure right so that the Readers are sending sats to Reviewers as a reward for writing great reviews.
The plan is the Reviewers anticipate an ROI high enough, such that they would even be willing to pay a small cost in order to post a review. Allowing us to sunset (or at least incrementally reduce) the upfront reward we’re paying today.
TL;DR: Write great product reviews that help educate bitcoiners, and earn sats. AMA!
P.S. For a deeper dive, here’s my appearance on Kevin Rooke’s podcast
Are you hiring anytime soon?
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We don't have any open roles right now, but probably will early next year!
If you're interested, definitely reach out to me on twitter or to julian@heyapollo.com
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Hi Julian, will you, at some point, let companies take ownership of their reviews page? Kind of like Glassdoor. Also, it seems you have B2C products. Will you start B2B as well?
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Hey @stackmack, most likely yes - we want to give companies some way of controlling the dialogue with their users. We see our role somewhat as facilitating that conversation the best we can.
That could look like companies 'claiming' their profile page - similar to other reviews sites like Glassdoor, G2, Trustpilot
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I have used the site a couple of times? Like what you guys are doing here! One thing which I was wondering when reading the reviews - how do I know that the reviews are genuine?
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Thanks! Yeah, that's really the most important question. There are a couple of answers.
Longer term, we're hoping that the best / most helpful / most genuine reviews are discovered and promoted by market forces on the platform, including:
  • Upvotes
  • Comments from other users
In the short term, we have our own moderation processes (and will be building more):
  • Automating plagiarism detection
  • Manually checking each review to make sure it meets our review guidelines (and will push this as far as it scales)
There are other technical solutions too that punish / disincentive spam and bad actors. For example the 'Web of Trust' system that Stacker News has implemented here!
In short, I think there's a whole host of things we need to be doing
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Hey Julian nice site, I've tried it out. glad to see you've got lightning login. I noticed withdrawals aren't automated is that something you'll be looking to add?
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Thanks @Roman! Automating withdrawals is definitely on the road map for us but it's not something we're looking to prioritize in the short term. We still need to do a bit more work to get comfortable with spam detection, and users seems to be pretty happy getting their sats within a day or so of requesting them.
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What do you hope Apollo looks like in 5 years? What's the grand vision?
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There are three parts to the vision right now.
First, we want to be one of the most trusted voices helping to onboard the "next 100m bitcoiners", next bull run. When people are learning about exchanges, wallets etc for the first time, we want to be one of the first stops on that journey.
Second, the we think the underlying sats-based economic model has broader application that just bitcoin products. If we can get the incentives right, then it's a model that can apply to 'reviewing' all kinds of other products and services.
Third (and most speculative), like many others we see a looming 'post-Google' world. 'Search' is increasingly up for grabs. Max Webster has a great post about this (https://hivemind.vc/howtodisruptgoogle/). (Full disclosure - Max is an investor of ours).
I see many different players entering this space and succeeding where Google is increasingly failing (including Stacker News! :) ).
If we can build a new type of incentive model for valuable p2p exchange of information - we think we can contribute here as well.
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Also, what were you doing before Apollo?
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I was working at a venture capital firm in the Bay Area. Tom and Sahil were both working in fintech startups.
The three of us decided individually and collectively in 2021 that we needed to spend all our time on bitcoin, and started making that happen at the start of this year :)
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how do you think about estimating the lifetime value of a quality reviewer for apollo?
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We think that the market will give us a good amount of signal about the LTV of a quality reviewer on the site - other users will upvote and send sats to the reviews (and reviewer).
Features like reviewers having their own profile page on the site, interacting with readers to answer questions will help accelerate this discovery process.
With a Sats based economy, we see reviewers capturing much of this LTV as opposed to the platform like youtube - where youtube gets the signal from advertisers and content views and then gets to decide the split. 
But we haven't quantified anything yet
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Do you plan to add non-bitcoin (outside crypto) products for reviews?
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We already have 'crypto' products, where they overlap with bitcoin (e.g. Ledger, Coinbase - now Casa).
Generally I'd say we consider things on a case by case basis. Is the 'Bankless' newsletter 'crypto'? In one sense yes. But reading bitcoiners' reviews of it can be helpful to bitcoiners, and so in that sense, relevant for us.
But we're philosophically bitcoin-only, and always will be. Everything rolls up to the mission of helping bitcoiners and bitcoin adoption.
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I see you have newsletters as a category! Would you add other forms of content as well - e.g. podcasts, youtube channels?
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We're thinking about it for sure. 'Content' as a category (or categories) has a few peculiarities. We need to think the right ways to index content (e.g. Podcasts by episode, or by Show?).
But generally, yes we want to include content and planning a few things for it :)
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Books!!! Think about book reviews as well
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What’s the best way to contact the Apollo team I am having an hard time with confirming my email?
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You can reach me at julian@heyapollo.com (or one of the team on twitter - links in the OP).
Not sure about the email confirmation, but we'll look into it for sure
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Thanks for the fast reply! I emailed you
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Why pay 1,000 Sats for a review? Won't you run out of money doing this? How do you plan to make money?
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In the early days, we are paying Sats to bootstrap the review 'marketplace'. This is just to get the initial activity going.
Our plan is for Reviewers to earn enough sats from other users (if the reviews are good enough), such that they'll see a potential ROI worth posting a fee of their own. So, we plan on removing the initial bonus at some point.
This fee will be part of our eventual revenue model. But also like I mentioned in the OP, we're not entirely sure what the path to profitability is yet!
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What's the most surprising thing you've learned building Apollo so far?
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Probably how much people value sats! We've had some super engaged users, really invested in when / how / under what circumstances the rewards work. Which we love. But at the same time, it's not for amounts worth much in 'fiat' terms.
Another one would be how supportive the bitcoin/lightning community is. We've been overwhelmed with how much goodwill has come our way. Makes us very bullish!
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Hey Julian! What other ideas did you explore before starting Apollo?
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Hey @k00b! When we were starting the company, we had a pretty broad mission in mind of helping bitcoin adoption in some way.
The first thing we thought of was probably the most obvious - building another on-ramp to help onboard the next wave of bitcoiners.
(This was also a natural fit for us given the background of the team - with fintech / asset mgmt experience).
For a few reasons we didn't end up going too far down that path. The main one was that when we actually went out and starting talking to 'pre-coiners' and trying to spread the bitcoin gospel a bit, we realized we didn't really have all the tools necessary to have those conversations well.
Specifically, people would ask us to help them compare exchanges, media sources, etc - all the stuff you think about when you're new. And while we could answer individual questions, we felt we needed something more scalable. And something that was less reliant on our own personal preferences.
That got us thinking about this idea of a 'vertical search engine' for Bitcoin
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I'm a fan and supporter and I have many recommendations but for now I'd stick to questions:
1- For how long do you plan to subsidize users? what would be the future business model?
2- What is the process to add more CATAGORIES such as (entertainment, music, games, podcasts, BTC companies, and many many more ...sky is the limit)
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Hey Muteness!
  1. This depends on how quickly we can engineer the right incentives and see them get adopted by the userbase. Short answer is, 'as soon as we can'. Right now we're still unknown and trying to bootstrap initial engagement. But the faster we can get Reviewers earning meaningful sats from other users, the faster they'll see the ROI, and be willing to write reviews for smaller and smaller (and eventually zero, and then negative!) upfront amounts.
  2. I've spoken about content in another answer in the thread, but we want to be careful with it. It's not clear for example what value a review has for podcasts - do people want to see individual episodes reviewed, or an entire show?
I agree, sky is the limit though. The process is just to submit companies to us, and if we see a lot of submissions in a certain category we don't have, we'll basically add it in response to the demand
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Thanks Julian
On point 2, which is in a way linked to point 1 (biz model) ... it all depends on what apollo is aiming for ... IMO there can be a fantastic opportunity to aim to BE THE "REAL PULSE" for anything Bitcoin related... this will get you as many users & BTC companies as you want and Apollo can be the go-to place for Bitcoiners seeking the TRUTH/real pulse
One you have enough traction (users/companies) then you can start charging companies .... but of course there is a lot of activity/partnerships/marketing etc.. that needs to take place before that
That is jut one idea (I have many more) and I'd be happy to discuss many ideas related to monetization and UX/UI recommendations ... when you feel like it DM me :)
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How do you deal with reviews which aren't reflecting the current state of a product? Looking at some highest rated reviews (which have lots of relevant information), some reviews are old and point out lack of features which have been since added to the product. Would you add a flag or something which can highlight that the most up to date information for the product?
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Good question. We could address it (or users can), in a couple of ways.
First, every can be commented on i.e. is essentially the start of a discussion thread. So anyone can add to, correct, or clarify what they read in a review. Those comments can then be upvoted (so that commenters can be rewarded).
If a review is simply outdated, then I think this is the best response.
When companies are playing more of an active role, then they can respond to reviews themselves, and so anyone reading will be able to see the company POV too.
If reviews are flat out wrong, it kind of depends why. Are they obviously misleading? Spamming? Off topic? If so, then hopefully we've caught them before publishing anyway - as they'd be contrary to our review guidelines.
But the short version is: we want the 'market' to take care of it
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Ohh yeah - comments! That is a good way to extract more signal from the reviews.
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Suggestion - add a careers or jobs page. I would love to work with you guys in the future. I am a freelance dev and love what you guys are building!
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Hola Julian, I don't see a place to review Bitcoin product and services marketplace... like:
This will definitely will help to increase Bitcoin adoption
Can you open one? Thank you very much.
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Hello I blog on medium about bitcoin products and services is it possible for reviewers to build a following?
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What are you doing to force an adequate Bitcoin education curriculum into k-12 education globally?
This is the single biggest thing any Bitcoiner can do to grow the network and become rich.
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