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Thanks for (partially) addressing - that was really all I was fishing for. No need to mention me on SNL: I don't need mentions because I'll burn this nym the moment I feel like it - burner nyms are my life now.
Note that I don't mind your original p.o.v. at all, but, if you want to dunk on everyone in #997414, please don't make the people that don't agree with you complicit in what's going on. Because the failure of those that tried isn't complicity, it's just failure, for now (at least that's what it feels like to someone like me that has been contributing code to this space since over a decade.) What's way more interesting is how we're going to turn that failure into success.
Therefore, I'd happily reverse my previous decision about dropping it, if you're truly going to use it as a vehicle to post about great open source projects, because I'm a fan of promoting open source projects. It would be a great "conversation" that way.
This is where I am realizing we are missing each other?
No where in the post does it read like this, "someone like me that has been contributing code to this space since over a decade" ?
Had the OP started with that^, then posed the question it would have gotten a different reaction from me, an empathetic reaction from me. I feel your pain, to experience that, defeat sucks but yes we will win.
The OP in #997414 asked the question
For the life of me... I can't understand what is going on with the blockchain. It's a simple question really: where the hell is everyone?
When I read the rest of the post it reads like someone who hasn't been paying attention to what the big players with the money have been doing in the ecosystem, the past 3 years. That is why I reacted the way I reacted. The reason for this is simple.
This includes ETFs, Stablecoins, Tether, L2's, Ordinals, NGO's, Nostr, ECash, Security's. All the transactions have been moved elsewhere. Why? Incentives have changed, developers have left to build elsewhere.
All this was done in lockstep with Chokepoint 2.0 and now we are asking why no one is using the Bitcoin blockchain???
Myself Darthcoin, Justin Shocknet, and others had been calling this stuff out this whole time on SN and no one listened to us. Thats why I reacted the way I did. It's frustrating.
I realized last year all I can do is just focus on what I can build, help the people who are building great bitcoin projects and ignore the rest because they don't need my help to succeed they are playing a different game.
Therefore, I'd happily reverse my previous decision about dropping it, if you're truly going to use it as a vehicle to post about great open source projects, because I'm a fan of promoting open source projects. It would be a great "conversation" that way.
We should take it upon ourselves to post an opensource project in the saloon everyday that needs help instead just pinging me.
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No where in the post does it read like this
Yeah I don't like throwing that card around tbh. It's authoritative and a +1 to reasons-to-burn. Many people are on SN on burner nyms though, so we don't always know who we talk to. But that's ok.
It's frustrating.
I think that that's another point of misunderstanding tho: I read that post as OP being on the same side of that discussion as we're agreeing to be on right now; actually most of the stackers are, if I look carefully at the responses. SN is lower on NgU fuckbois than any other Bitcoin discussion platform I've hung out on, which is a massive +.
I realized last year all I can do is just focus on what I can build, help the people who are building great bitcoin projects and ignore the rest because they don't need my help to succeed they are playing a different game.
Well yeah - they can issue their shitstonks all on their own. The plebs and no-coiners are who need support: because if the bitcoin bubble pops the former are effed, and if the fiat bubble pops the latter are effed. I'm currently thinking these would happen in reverse order: fiat first, or at the very least housing first. There's a lot of potential trouble ahead.
As for the empty blocks; I think it's solvable, but idk how it will play out. It doesn't really matter if a block is half full or full because half is ordinals; both are not sustainable long term. But who is going to invest in developing L1 apps if fees can go insane again with Casey 2.0 doing astrology with block numbers? This is a problem that I don't have an answer to. Maybe we do need to work a bit on b2b solutions per Justin - I worked with a team on that in '14/'15 but it was way too early. Maybe there's something there to revive and build upon - I'll check that out.
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I agree on all these points.
Locally I am working on trying to find & onboard more normal tech companies into leveraging Bitcoin as another payment solution, starting this month with our new meetup we’re starting.
I think your absolutely right about B2B, this is where we have the advantage while all these other things we discussed chase trends. Also heard a pod with Ben Arc and he said similar things about us who are staying working on Bitcoin and Lightning only.
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