Radentor13

bitcoin

KYC Free Bitcoin in Amsterdam?

spiderman

Found 2 places from [Peach Meet Up Map](https://peachbitcoin.com/buy-btc-with-cash/)
- https://zwollebitcoinstad.nl/
- https://www.meetup.com/de-bitcoin-meetup/

Can also use online p2p exchanges. The lowest premium atm is 3.5% on Robosats and 5% on Bisq Easy


bitcoin_beginners

Bitcoin Ecosystem 25.11.21

Updates :

- - Stacker News [latest commits](https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/commits/master)
- - Boltz increased fee rate for exchanging ⚡Bitcoin to ⛓️Bitcoin from 0.5% + chain fee to 0.7% + chain fee. This change applies to regular Boltz and Boltz Pro
- - THNDR added replay feature for Blackjack (for transparency they said)
- 
- Alby [v3.14.0](https://github.com/getAlby/lightning-browser-extension/releases/tag/v3.14.0)
- Arkd [v0.8.6](https://github.com/arkade-os/arkd/releases/tag/v0.8.6)
- Bark [v0.1.0](https://gitlab.com/ark-bitcoin/bark/-/releases)beta2
- Bisq Easy (Mobile) [v0.2.3](https://github.com/bisq-network/bisq-mobile/releases/tag/anode_0.2.3)
- Bull [v6.3.4](https://github.com/SatoshiPortal/bullbitcoin-mobile/releases/tag/v6.3.4)
- Dojo [v1.28.2](https://github.com/Dojo-Open-Source-Project/samourai-dojo/releases/tag/v1.28.2)
- ECash-App [v0.3.0](https://github.com/fedimint/ecash-app/releases/tag/v0.3.0)
- ElectrumX [v1.19.0](https://github.com/spesmilo/electrumx/releases/tag/1.19.0)
- Fedi [v25.11.1](https://github.com/fedixyz/fedi/releases/tag/25.11.1)
- Frigate [v1.3.0](https://github.com/sparrowwallet/frigate/releases/tag/1.3.0)
- Fulmine [v0.3.6](https://github.com/ArkLabsHQ/fulmine/releases/tag/v0.3.6)
- Ginger [v2.0.23](https://github.com/GingerPrivacy/GingerWallet/releases/tag/v2.0.23)
- Knots [v29.2](https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/releases/tag/v29.2.knots20251110)20251110
- Lexe [v0.8.9](https://github.com/lexe-app/lexe-public/releases/tag/node-v0.8.9)
- Lightning Terminal [v0.16.0](https://github.com/lightninglabs/lightning-terminal/releases/tag/v0.16.0-alpha.rc1)alpharc1
- LN Markets API [v3](https://xcancel.com/LNMarkets/status/1988294607268966842)
- LNUnit [v3.0.1](https://github.com/nbd-wtf/LNUnit/releases/tag/3.0.1)
- Macadamia [v0.5.0](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/macadamia-wallet/id6738696700)
- Mostro [v0.15.5](https://github.com/MostroP2P/mostro/releases/tag/v0.15.5)
- Mostro [v1.0.4](https://github.com/MostroP2P/mobile/releases/tag/v1.0.4)
- Noah [v0.0.2](https://github.com/BlixtWallet/noah/releases/tag/v0.0.2.signet)
- Nunchuk (Android) [v2.0.1](https://github.com/nunchuk-io/nunchuk-android/releases/tag/android.2.0.1)
- Nunchuk (iOS) [v2.0.0](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nunchuk-bitcoin-wallet/id1563190073)
- Peach [v0.69.0](https://github.com/Peach2Peach/peach-app/releases/tag/v0.69.0(267))(297)
- Phoenixd [v0.7.1](https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenixd/releases/tag/v0.7.1)
- Start9 [v0.4.0](https://github.com/Start9Labs/start-os/releases/tag/v0.4.0-alpha.12)alpha12
- THNDR v17.1.0(193)
- Vexl [v1.37.4](https://github.com/vexl-it/vexl/releases/tag/v1.37.4_640)(640)
- Zeus [v0.12.0](https://github.com/ZeusLN/zeus/releases/tag/v0.12.0-alpha2)alpha2


# META in Bitcoin Ecosystem
[^1] [^2]

# How To Buy KYC-less Bitcoin

|Exchanges|Trade Limit|Brokers|Trade Limit|
|:----------------:|:----------------:|:-----------:|:----------------:|
|Hodl Hodl|[25K](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#what-is-the-minimum-amount-of-bitcoin-i-can-buy-or-sell) ~ [5 Bitcoin](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#limits)/trade|Bittr|[≤999 EUR,CHF/30days](https://getbittr.com/support)
|Mostro|[100 ~ 20K](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html)/trade|Azteco|Undefined|
|Peach|[≤1K CHF/day](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading/#why-is-there-a-trading-limit)|||
|LNP2PBot|[Undefined](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/is-there-a-limit-on-the-amounts-i-can-trade.html)|||
|Bisq Easy|[?](https://bisq.wiki/Account_limits)|||

|Exchanges|Total Cost (Buyer)|Exchanges|Total Cost (Seller)|
|:----------------:|:---------------------------:|:----------------:|:---------------------------:|
|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) + Seller Premium|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) - Buyer Discount|
|LNP2PBot|[0](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) + Seller Premium|Peach|[0](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) - Buyer Discount|
|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) + Seller Premium|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) - Buyer Discount|
|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) + Seller Premium|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) - Buyer Discount|
|Hodl Hodl|[≤0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) + Seller Premium|Hodl Hodl|[≤0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) - Buyer Discount|
|Peach|[2%](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) + Seller Premium|LNP2PBot|[0.6%](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) - Buyer Discount|

|Brokers|Total Cost (Buyer)|
|:-----------:|:---------------------------:|
|Bittr|[1.5% + 1 EUR/CHF](https://getbittr.com/support)|
|Azteco|[Undefined](https://help.azte.co/article/27-what-are-the-commission-fees)|

- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|≤6M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|BitcoinVeneto|≤5M|BitcoinVeneto|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|≤5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|Over the moon|≤5M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|TheBigLake|≤5M|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|≤750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|


# How To Exchange Onchain Bitcoin To Another Form

||Flow|Feerate|
|:--:|:---:|:----------:|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️▶️⚡|0.09% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.49% + Chain Fee|
|Coinos|⛓️▶️⚡|[0.1%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)
||⚡▶️⛓️|[0.4%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)|
|Eldamar|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Zeus|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Boltz|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.7% + Chain Fee|
|WoS|⛓️▶️⚡|1.95%|
||⚡▶️⛓️|1.95% + WoS Fee|

||Flow|Swap Limit|
|:-:|:----:|:---------------:|
|Boltz|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 25M|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️🔁⚡|100K ~ 25M|
|Zeus|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 5M|
|Eldamar|⛓️🔁⚡|50K ~ 1M|
|Coinos|⛓️🔁⚡|Undefined|
|WoS|⛓️🔁⚡|Undefined|

- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|≤6M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|BitcoinVeneto|≤5M|BitcoinVeneto|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|≤5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|Over the moon|≤5M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|TheBigLake|≤5M|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|≤750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|

# Compare Something Else

- Cashu & Fedimint Mints
- - `https://bitcoinmints.com`
- - `https://cashumints.space`
- - `https://observer.fedimint.org`
- WabiSabi Coordinators
- - `https://liquisabi.com`
- - `https://wabisator.com`
- Altruistic Watchtowers
- - `https://github.com/openoms/lightning-node-management/issues/4`
- Private Channel Peers
- - `https://stacker.news/items/758685`


[^1]: META : Most Effective Tactics Available (yes i'm a gamer). In Bitcoin context, this is a comparison between various apps to find (at least at the surface level) the best app or service within it's own category.
[^2]: I didn't conduct testing on all of these apps listed, all of the informations provided are obtained via documentation (i'd be crazy to regularly test all of these lmao).

Bitcoin Ecoaystem 25.11.14

Updates :

- - Stacker News [latest commits](https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/commits/master)
- - Will add [Arke](https://github.com/GBKS/arke) wallet and [Purr](https://github.com/heathermm55/purrwallet) wallet
- - [eNuts](https://github.com/cashubtc/eNuts) might be back again
- - [Blocktank](https://blocktank.to) stopped offering inboujd liquidity to non-Bitkit users ?
- 
- Arkd [v0.8.5](https://github.com/arkade-os/arkd/releases/tag/v0.8.5)
- Bitkey [v2025.21.0](https://github.com/proto-at-block/bitkey/releases/tag/app%2F2025.21.0)
- Boltz (Web App) [v1.8.6](https://github.com/BoltzExchange/boltz-web-app/releases/tag/v1.8.6)
- btcd [v0.25.0](https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/releases/tag/v0.25.0)
- Bull [v6.3.0](https://github.com/SatoshiPortal/bullbitcoin-mobile/releases/tag/v6.3.0)
- Cashu Nutmix [v0.3.9](https://github.com/lescuer97/nutmix/releases/tag/v0.3.9)
- Cashu Nutshell [v0.18.1](https://github.com/cashubtc/nutshell/releases/tag/0.18.1)
- CLN App [v25.07.3](https://github.com/ElementsProject/cln-application/releases/tag/v25.07.3)
- COLDCARD [latest firmware update](https://github.com/Coldcard/firmware/tags)
- Core [v28.3](https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/releases/tag/v28.3)
- Core Lightning [v25.09.3](https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/releases/tag/v25.09.3)
- Fedi [v25.10.4](https://github.com/fedixyz/fedi/releases/tag/25.10.4)
- Frigate [v1.2.0](https://github.com/sparrowwallet/frigate/releases/tag/1.2.0)
- Fulmine [v0.3.5](https://github.com/ArkLabsHQ/fulmine/releases/tag/v0.3.5)
- Fountain v1.3.10
- Geyser Fund [v0.24.0](https://github.com/geyserfund/geyser-app/releases/tag/v0.24.0)
- Krux [v25.10.1](https://github.com/selfcustody/krux/releases/tag/v25.10.1)
- Lexe [v0.8.10](https://github.com/lexe-app/lexe-public/releases/tag/app-v0.8.10%2B26)+26
- Lightning-KMP [v1.11.1](https://github.com/ACINQ/lightning-kmp/releases/tag/v1.11.1)
- Lightning Network Daemon [v0.20.0](https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/releases/tag/v0.20.0-beta.rc4)betarc4
- Lightning Terminal [v0.15.3](https://github.com/lightninglabs/lightning-terminal/releases/tag/v0.15.3-alpha)alpha
- Mostro (CLI) [v0.14.3](https://github.com/MostroP2P/mostro-cli/releases/tag/v0.14.3)
- Muun (iOS) [v2.11.2](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/muun-wallet/id1482037683)
- Noah [v0.0.1](https://github.com/BlixtWallet/noah/releases/tag/v0.0.1.signet)signet
- Nunchuk (Android) [v1.75.3](https://github.com/nunchuk-io/nunchuk-android/releases/tag/android.1.75.3)
- Nunchuk (iOS) [v1.9.92](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nunchuk-bitcoin-wallet/id1563190073)
- Nunchuk (Desktop) [v1.9.55](https://github.com/nunchuk-io/nunchuk-desktop/releases/tag/1.9.55)
- Passport [v2.3.10](https://github.com/Foundation-Devices/passport2/releases/tag/v2.3.10)
- Peach [v0.69.0](https://github.com/Peach2Peach/peach-app/releases/tag/v0.69.0(296))(296)
- Phoenix [v2.7.1](https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenix/releases/tag/android-v2.7.1)
- Phoenixd [v0.7.0](https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenixd/releases/tag/v0.7.0)
- Safe [v1.6.0](https://github.com/andreasgriffin/bitcoin-safe/releases/tag/1.6.0rc0)rc0
- Sparrow [v2.3.1](https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/releases/tag/2.3.1)
- Umbrel [v1.5.0](https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel/releases/tag/1.5.0)
- Vexl [v1.37.1](https://github.com/vexl-it/vexl/releases/tag/v1.37.1_612)(612)
- Wallet of Satoshi v2.1.11
- Wavlake (Android) [v1.1.8](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wavlake.mobile)

# META in Bitcoin Ecosystem
[^1] [^2]

# How To Buy KYC-less Bitcoin

|Exchanges|Trade Limit|Brokers|Trade Limit|
|:----------------:|:----------------:|:-----------:|:----------------:|
|Hodl Hodl|[25K](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#what-is-the-minimum-amount-of-bitcoin-i-can-buy-or-sell) ~ [5 Bitcoin](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#limits)/trade|Bittr|[≤999 EUR,CHF/30days](https://getbittr.com/support)
|Mostro|[100 ~ 20K](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html)/trade|Azteco|Undefined|
|Peach|[≤1K CHF/day](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading/#why-is-there-a-trading-limit)|||
|LNP2PBot|[Undefined](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/is-there-a-limit-on-the-amounts-i-can-trade.html)|||
|Bisq Easy|[?](https://bisq.wiki/Account_limits)|||

|Exchanges|Total Cost (Buyer)|Exchanges|Total Cost (Seller)|
|:----------------:|:---------------------------:|:----------------:|:---------------------------:|
|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) + Seller Premium|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) - Buyer Discount|
|LNP2PBot|[0](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) + Seller Premium|Peach|[0](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) - Buyer Discount|
|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) + Seller Premium|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) - Buyer Discount|
|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) + Seller Premium|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) - Buyer Discount|
|Hodl Hodl|[≤0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) + Seller Premium|Hodl Hodl|[≤0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) - Buyer Discount|
|Peach|[2%](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) + Seller Premium|LNP2PBot|[0.6%](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) - Buyer Discount|

|Brokers|Total Cost (Buyer)|
|:-----------:|:---------------------------:|
|Bittr|[1.5% + 1 EUR/CHF](https://getbittr.com/support)|
|Azteco|[Undefined](https://help.azte.co/article/27-what-are-the-commission-fees)|

- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|≤6M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|BitcoinVeneto|≤5M|BitcoinVeneto|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|≤5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|Over the moon|≤5M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|TheBigLake|≤5M|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|≤750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|


# How To Exchange Onchain Bitcoin To Another Form

||Flow|Feerate|
|:--:|:---:|:----------:|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️▶️⚡|0.09% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.49% + Chain Fee|
|Coinos|⛓️▶️⚡|[0.1%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)
||⚡▶️⛓️|[0.4%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)|
|Boltz|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Eldamar|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Zeus|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|WoS|⛓️▶️⚡|1.95%|
||⚡▶️⛓️|1.95% + WoS Fee|

||Flow|Swap Limit|
|:-:|:----:|:---------------:|
|Boltz|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 25M|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️🔁⚡|100K ~ 25M|
|Zeus|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 5M|
|Eldamar|⛓️🔁⚡|50K ~ 1M|
|Coinos|⛓️🔁⚡|Undefined|
|WoS|⛓️🔁⚡|Undefined|

- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|≤6M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|BitcoinVeneto|≤5M|BitcoinVeneto|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|≤5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|Over the moon|≤5M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|TheBigLake|≤5M|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|≤750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|

# Compare Something Else

- Cashu & Fedimint Mints
- - `https://bitcoinmints.com`
- - `https://cashumints.space`
- - `https://observer.fedimint.org`
- WabiSabi Coordinators
- - `https://liquisabi.com`
- - `https://wabisator.com`
- Altruistic Watchtowers
- - `https://github.com/openoms/lightning-node-management/issues/4`
- Private Channel Peers
- - `https://stacker.news/items/758685`


[^1]: META : Most Effective Tactics Available (yes i'm a gamer). In Bitcoin context, this is a comparison between various apps to find (at least at the surface level) the best app or service within it's own category.
[^2]: I didn't conduct testing on all of these apps listed, all of the informations provided are obtained via documentation (i'd be crazy to regularly test all of these lmao).

Bitcoin Ecosystem 25.11.07

AskSN

One of those Japanese countries

Undisciplined

How do I Get Started with Bolt12?

I dont remember any Android wallet that supports BOLT12 rn other than :
- Remote controlled CLN node (which is what you avoid)
- Phoenix (since [v2.3.1](https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenix/releases/tag/android-v2.3.1))
- Alby Hub (since [v1.18.2](https://github.com/getAlby/hub/releases/tag/v1.18.2))
- Coinos (since December)
- Is there any Cashu wallet i missed ?

Removal :
|Sub-Category||?|
|:----------------:|:-:|:-:|
|For Buyer|Pocket|[Full KYC Incoming](https://pocketbitcoin.com/blog/posts/full-verification-coming-to-pocket)

Updates :

- Bull [v6.2.3](https://github.com/SatoshiPortal/bullbitcoin-mobile/releases/tag/v6.2.3)
- Envoy [v2.1.1](https://github.com/Foundation-Devices/envoy/releases/tag/v2.1.1)
- Fedi [v25.10.2](https://github.com/fedixyz/fedi/releases/tag/v25.10.2)
- Fulmine [v0.3.2](https://github.com/ArkLabsHQ/fulmine/releases/tag/v0.3.2)
- Minibits [v0.3.2](https://github.com/minibits-cash/minibits_wallet/releases/tag/v0.3.2-beta.2)beta2
- Nunchuk (Android) [v1.75.1](https://github.com/nunchuk-io/nunchuk-android/releases/tag/android.1.75.1)
- Nunchuk (iOS) [v1.9.91](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nunchuk-bitcoin-wallet/id1563190073)
- Nunchuk (Desktop) [v1.9.54](https://github.com/nunchuk-io/nunchuk-desktop/releases/tag/1.9.54)
- Zeus [v0.12.0](https://github.com/ZeusLN/zeus/releases/tag/v0.12.0-alpha1)alpha
- Dojo [v1.28.1](https://github.com/Dojo-Open-Source-Project/samourai-dojo/releases/tag/v1.28.1)
- Nix-Bitcoin [v0.0.133](https://github.com/fort-nix/nix-bitcoin/releases/tag/v0.0.133)
- Krux [v25.10.0](https://github.com/selfcustody/krux/releases/tag/v25.10.0)
- Boltz (Client) [v2.9.0](https://github.com/BoltzExchange/boltz-client/releases/tag/v2.9.0)
- Eclair [v0.13.1](https://github.com/ACINQ/eclair/releases/tag/v0.13.1)
- LND [v0.20.0](https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/releases/tag/v0.20.0-beta.rc2)betarc2
- Mostro [v0.15.3](https://github.com/MostroP2P/mostro/releases/tag/v0.15.3)
- Mostro (Mobile) [v1.0.2](https://github.com/MostroP2P/mobile/releases/tag/v1.0.2)
- Mostro (CLI) [v0.14.2](https://github.com/MostroP2P/mostro-cli/releases/tag/v0.14.2)
- Fountain [v1.3.9](https://fountain.fm/features)
- Bisq Easy (Mobile) [v0.2.1](https://github.com/bisq-network/bisq-mobile/releases/tag/anode_0.2.1)
- LNP2PBot [v0.14.3](https://github.com/lnp2pBot/bot/releases/tag/v0.14.3)
- Lightning-KMP [v1.11.0](https://github.com/ACINQ/lightning-kmp/releases/tag/v1.11.0)
- Arkd [v0.8.1](https://github.com/arkade-os/arkd/releases/tag/v0.8.1-rc.0)rc0


- Noah [latest commit](https://t.me/blixtwallet/481333)
- Stacker News [latest commits](https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/commits/master)


# META in Bitcoin Ecosystem
[^1] [^2]

# How To Buy KYC-less Bitcoin

|Exchanges|Trade Limit|Brokers|Trade Limit|
|:----------------:|:----------------:|:-----------:|:----------------:|
|Hodl Hodl|[25K](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#what-is-the-minimum-amount-of-bitcoin-i-can-buy-or-sell) ~ [5 Bitcoin](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#limits)/trade|Bittr|[≤999 EUR,CHF/30days](https://getbittr.com/support)
|Mostro|[100 ~ 20K](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html)/trade|Azteco|Undefined|
|Peach|[≤1K CHF/day](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading/#why-is-there-a-trading-limit)|||
|LNP2PBot|[Undefined](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/is-there-a-limit-on-the-amounts-i-can-trade.html)|||
|Bisq Easy|[?](https://bisq.wiki/Account_limits)|||

|Exchanges|Total Cost (Buyer)|Exchanges|Total Cost (Seller)|
|:----------------:|:---------------------------:|:----------------:|:---------------------------:|
|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) + Seller Premium|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) - Buyer Discount|
|LNP2PBot|[0](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) + Seller Premium|Peach|[0](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) - Buyer Discount|
|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) + Seller Premium|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) - Buyer Discount|
|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) + Seller Premium|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) - Buyer Discount|
|Hodl Hodl|[≤0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) + Seller Premium|Hodl Hodl|[≤0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) - Buyer Discount|
|Peach|[2%](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) + Seller Premium|LNP2PBot|[0.6%](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) - Buyer Discount|

|Brokers|Total Cost (Buyer)|
|:-----------:|:---------------------------:|
|Bittr|[1.5% + 1 EUR/CHF](https://getbittr.com/support)|
|Azteco|[Undefined](https://help.azte.co/article/27-what-are-the-commission-fees)|

- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|≤6M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|BitcoinVeneto|≤5M|BitcoinVeneto|0.025%|0.175%|
|Over the moon|≤5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|TheBigLake|≤5M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|≤4,480K|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|≤750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|


# How To Exchange Onchain Bitcoin To Another Form

||Flow|Feerate|
|:--:|:---:|:----------:|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️▶️⚡|0.09% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.49% + Chain Fee|
|Coinos|⛓️▶️⚡|[0.1%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)
||⚡▶️⛓️|[0.4%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)|
|Boltz|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Eldamar|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Zeus|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|WoS|⛓️▶️⚡|1.95%|
||⚡▶️⛓️|1.95% + WoS Fee|

||Flow|Swap Limit|
|:-:|:----:|:---------------:|
|Boltz|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 25M|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️🔁⚡|100K ~ 25M|
|Zeus|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 5M|
|Eldamar|⛓️🔁⚡|50K ~ 1M|
|Coinos|⛓️🔁⚡|Undefined|
|WoS|⛓️🔁⚡|Undefined|

- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|≤6M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|BitcoinVeneto|≤5M|BitcoinVeneto|0.025%|0.175%|
|Over the moon|≤5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|TheBigLake|≤5M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|≤4,480K|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|≤750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|

# Compare Something Else

- Cashu & Fedimint Mints
- - `https://bitcoinmints.com`
- - `https://cashumints.space`
- - `https://observer.fedimint.org`
- WabiSabi Coordinators
- - `https://liquisabi.com`
- - `https://wabisator.com`
- Altruistic Watchtowers
- - `https://github.com/openoms/lightning-node-management/issues/4`
- Private Channel Peers
- - `https://stacker.news/items/758685`


[^1]: META : Most Effective Tactics Available (yes i'm a gamer). In Bitcoin context, this is a comparison between various apps to find (at least at the surface level) the best app or service within it's own category.
[^2]: I didn't conduct testing on all of these apps listed, all of the informations provided are obtained via documentation (i'd be crazy to regularly test all of these lmao).

Bitcoin Ecosystem 25.10.28

Bitcoin Ecosystem 25.10.21

The open-source BULL Wallet is finally available on iOS and Android worldwide.

BullBitcoin_

![](https://m.stacker.news/112692)
Thats the fee Boltz charges when swaping from LN to Liquid (Bull only stores Onchain & Liquid Bitcoin

Bitcoin Ecosystem 25.10.14

Alby & Alby Hub are mentioned [here](https://stacker.news/items/1230801). Skipped Blink cause some of its functionality are locked behind kyc




Updates :

- Fedi [v25.10.1](https://github.com/fedixyz/fedi/releases/tag/v25.10.1)
- Envoy [v2.1.0](https://github.com/Foundation-Devices/envoy/releases/tag/2.1.0-beta)beta
- Liana [v13.1](https://github.com/wizardsardine/liana/releases/tag/v13.1)
- Noah [latest commit](https://t.me/blixtwallet/481333)
- Nunchuk (Android) [v1.73.0](https://github.com/nunchuk-io/nunchuk-android/releases/tag/android.1.73.0)
- Nunchuk (iOS) [v1.9.89](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nunchuk-bitcoin-wallet/id1563190073)
- Nunchuk (Desktop) [v1.9.52](https://github.com/nunchuk-io/nunchuk-desktop/releases/tag/1.9.52)
- Shock [v0.0.22](https://github.com/shocknet/wallet2/releases/tag/v0.0.22-beta)
- Zeus [v0.11.6](https://github.com/ZeusLN/zeus/releases/tag/v0.11.6-rc1)rc1
- Nix-Bitcoin [v0.0.131](https://github.com/fort-nix/nix-bitcoin/releases/tag/v0.0.131)
- Umbrel [v1.5.0](https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel/releases/tag/1.5.0-beta.2)beta2
- Fedimint [v0.9.0](https://github.com/fedimint/fedimint/releases/tag/v0.9.0-beta.2)beta2
- Boltz (Web App) [v1.8.5](https://github.com/BoltzExchange/boltz-web-app/releases/tag/v1.8.5)
- Boltz (Client) [v2.8.9](https://github.com/BoltzExchange/boltz-client/releases/tag/v2.8.9)
- Boltz (BTCPay Plugin) [v2.2.14](https://github.com/BoltzExchange/boltz-btcpay-plugin/releases/tag/v2.2.14)
- Mostro (CLI) [v0.14.1](https://github.com/MostroP2P/mostro-cli/releases/tag/v0.14.1)
- Robosats [v0.8.2](https://github.com/RoboSats/robosats/releases/tag/v0.8.2-alpha)alpha
- Bisq Easy (Mobile) [v0.1.1](https://github.com/bisq-network/bisq-mobile/releases/tag/anode_0.1.1)
- Peach [v0.69.0](https://github.com/Peach2Peach/peach-app/releases/tag/v0.69.0(293))(293)
- Core [v30.0](https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/releases/tag/v30.0)
- Knots [v29.2](https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/releases/tag/v29.2.knots20251010)
- Ark [v0.8.0](https://github.com/arkade-os/arkd/releases/tag/v0.8.0-rc.1)rc1
- Rust-Ark [v0.1.0](https://codeberg.org/ark-bitcoin/bark/releases/tag/bark-0.1.0-beta.1)beta1
- CLBOSS [v0.15.1](https://github.com/ZmnSCPxj/clboss/releases/tag/v0.15.1)

- Stacker News [latest commits](https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/commits/master)


# META in Bitcoin Ecosystem
[^1] [^2]

# How To Buy KYC-less Bitcoin

- Exchanges

||Total Cost (Buyer)||Total Cost (Seller)|
|:-:|:------------------------:|:-:|:-------------------------:|
|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) + Seller Premium|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) - Buyer Discount|
|LNP2PBot|[0](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) + Seller Premium|Peach|[0](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) - Buyer Discount|
|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) + Seller Premium|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) - Buyer Discount|
|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) + Seller Premium|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) - Buyer Discount|
|Hodl Hodl|[0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) + Seller Premium|Hodl Hodl|[0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) - Buyer Discount|
|Peach|[2%](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) + Seller Premium|LNP2PBot|[0.6%](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) - Buyer Discount|

||Trade Limit|
|:-:|:--------------:|
|Hodl Hodl|[25K](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#what-is-the-minimum-amount-of-bitcoin-i-can-buy-or-sell) ~ [5 Bitcoin](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#limits)/trade|
|Mostro|[100 ~ 20K](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html)/trade|
|Peach|[≤1K CHF/day](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading/#why-is-there-a-trading-limit)|
|LNP2PBot|[Undefined](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/is-there-a-limit-on-the-amounts-i-can-trade.html)|
|Bisq Easy|[?](https://bisq.wiki/Account_limits)|


- Brokers

||Total Cost (Buyer)||Total Cost (Seller)|
|:-:|:------------------------:|:-:|:-------------------------:|
|Pocket|[1.5%](https://pocketbitcoin.com/faq/are-there-fees-with-pocket)|Pocket|[?](https://pocketbitcoin.com/faq/sell-feature)|
|Bittr|[1.5% + 1 EUR/CHF](https://getbittr.com/support)|
|Azteco|[Undefined](https://help.azte.co/article/27-what-are-the-commission-fees)|

||Trade Limit|
|:-:|:--------------:|
|Bittr|[≤999 EUR,CHF/30 days](https://getbittr.com/support)|
|Pocket|Undefined|
|Azteco|Undefined|


- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|16K ~ 6M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|Over the Moon|21K ~ 5M|BitcoinVeneto|0.088%|0.175%|
|TheBigLake|21K ~ 5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|Bitcoin Veneto|52K ~ 4M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|21K ~ 3,446K|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|21K ~ 750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|


# How To Exchange Onchain Bitcoin To Another Layer

||Flow|Feerate|
|:--:|:---:|:----------:|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️▶️⚡|0.09% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.49% + Chain Fee|
|Coinos|⛓️▶️⚡|[0.1%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)
||⚡▶️⛓️|[0.4%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)|
|Boltz|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Eldamar|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Zeus|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|WoS|⛓️▶️⚡|1.95%|
||⚡▶️⛓️|1.95% + WoS Fee|

||Flow|Swap Limit|
|:-:|:----:|:---------------:|
|Boltz|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 25M|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️🔁⚡|100K ~ 25M|
|Zeus|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 5M|
|Eldamar|⛓️🔁⚡|50K ~ 1M|
|Coinos|⚡🔁⛓️|Undefined|
|WoS|⚡🔁⛓️|Undefined|

- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|16K ~ 6M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|Over the Moon|21K ~ 5M|BitcoinVeneto|0.088%|0.175%|
|TheBigLake|21K ~ 5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|Bitcoin Veneto|52K ~ 4M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|21K ~ 3,446K|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|21K ~ 750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|

# Compare Something Else

- Cashu & Fedimint Mints
- - `https://bitcoinmints.com`
- - `https://cashumints.space`
- - `https://observer.fedimint.org`
- WabiSabi Coordinators
- - `https://liquisabi.com`
- - `https://wabisator.com`
- Altruistic Watchtowers
- - `https://github.com/openoms/lightning-node-management/issues/4`
- Private Channel Peers
- - `https://stacker.news/items/758685` 
> Nudge me to redo this 


[^1]: META : Most Effective Tactics Available (yes i'm a gamer). In Bitcoin context, this is a comparison between various apps to find (at least at the surface level) the best app or service within it's own category.
[^2]: I didn't conduct testing on all of these apps listed, all of the informations provided are obtained via documentation (i'd be crazy to regularly test all of these lmao).

Removals :
|Sub-Category||?|
|:----------------:|:-:|:-:|
|Onchain Wallet|Firebolt|Repository archived|

Additions :
|Sub-Category||?|
|:----------------:|:-:|:-:|
|Lightning Wallet|Ijma|[NOSTR announcement](https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsy827lekcp9vyvwvsyr8lnvc5m8dqj5scuztw53zg55uvqn7g3llc02xlld)|
|Ark Wallet|Arkaic|[Telegram announcement](https://t.me/ark_bitcoin/6188)|
|Miner Pool|Parasite|


Updates :

- Fulmine [v0.3.0](https://github.com/ArkLabsHQ/fulmine/releases/tag/v0.3.0-tracking_off)rc1
- Liana [v13](https://github.com/wizardsardine/liana/releases/tag/v13.0)
- Noah [latest commit](https://t.me/blixtwallet/481333)
- Safe [v1.6.0](https://github.com/andreasgriffin/bitcoin-safe/releases/tag/1.6.0dev3)dev3
- Sparrow [v2.3.0](https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/releases/tag/2.3.0)
- Wasabi [v2.7.1](https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WalletWasabi/releases/tag/v2.7.1)
- Zeus [v0.11.6](https://github.com/ZeusLN/zeus/releases/tag/v0.11.6-alpha1)alpha1
- Dojo [v1.28.0](https://github.com/Dojo-Open-Source-Project/samourai-dojo/releases/tag/v1.28.0)
- Phoenixd [v0.6.3](https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenixd/releases/tag/v0.6.3)
- RaspiBlitz [v1.12.0](https://github.com/raspiblitz/raspiblitz/releases/tag/v1.12.0)
- Alby [v3.13.0](https://github.com/getAlby/lightning-browser-extension/releases/tag/v3.13.0)
- Bitkey [v2025.19.0](https://github.com/proto-at-block/bitkey/releases/tag/app%2F2025.19.0)
- COLDCARD [v5.4.4](https://github.com/Coldcard/firmware/releases/tag/2025-09-30T1238-v5.4.4)
- Fedimint [v0.9.0](https://github.com/fedimint/fedimint/releases/tag/v0.9.0-beta.0)beta0
- Boltz (Client) [v2.8.8](https://github.com/BoltzExchange/boltz-client/releases/tag/v2.8.8)
- Boltz (BtcPay Plugin) [v2.2.12](https://github.com/BoltzExchange/boltz-btcpay-plugin/releases/tag/v2.2.12)
- LND [v0.20.0](https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/releases/tag/v0.20.0-beta.rc1)betarc1
- Robosats [v0.8.2](https://github.com/RoboSats/robosats/releases/tag/v0.8.2-alpha)alpha
- Fountain[v1.3.4](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fm.fountain.apps)
- Peach [v0.69.0](https://github.com/Peach2Peach/peach-app/releases/tag/v0.69.0(292))(292)
- Vexl [v1.36.4](https://github.com/vexl-it/vexl/releases/tag/v1.36.4_590)(590)

- Stacker News [latest commits](https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/commits/master)


# META in Bitcoin Ecosystem
[^1] [^2]

# How To Buy KYC-less Bitcoin

- Exchanges

||Total Cost (Buyer)||Total Cost (Seller)|
|:-:|:------------------------:|:-:|:-------------------------:|
|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) + Seller Premium|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) - Buyer Discount|
|LNP2PBot|[0](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) + Seller Premium|Peach|[0](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) - Buyer Discount|
|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) + Seller Premium|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) - Buyer Discount|
|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) + Seller Premium|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) - Buyer Discount|
|Hodl Hodl|[0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) + Seller Premium|Hodl Hodl|[0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) - Buyer Discount|
|Peach|[2%](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) + Seller Premium|LNP2PBot|[0.6%](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) - Buyer Discount|

||Trade Limit|
|:-:|:--------------:|
|Hodl Hodl|[25K](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#what-is-the-minimum-amount-of-bitcoin-i-can-buy-or-sell) ~ [5 Bitcoin](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#limits)/trade|
|Mostro|[100 ~ 20K](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html)/trade|
|Peach|[≤1K CHF/day](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading/#why-is-there-a-trading-limit)|
|LNP2PBot|[Undefined](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/is-there-a-limit-on-the-amounts-i-can-trade.html)|
|Bisq Easy|[?](https://bisq.wiki/Account_limits)|


- Brokers

||Total Cost (Buyer)||Total Cost (Seller)|
|:-:|:------------------------:|:-:|:-------------------------:|
|Pocket|[1.5%](https://pocketbitcoin.com/faq/are-there-fees-with-pocket)|Pocket|[?](https://pocketbitcoin.com/faq/sell-feature)|
|Bittr|[1.5% + 1 EUR/CHF](https://getbittr.com/support)|
|Azteco|[Undefined](https://help.azte.co/article/27-what-are-the-commission-fees)|

||Trade Limit|
|:-:|:--------------:|
|Bittr|[≤999 EUR,CHF/30 days](https://getbittr.com/support)|
|Pocket|Undefined|
|Azteco|Undefined|


- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|16K ~ 6M|BitcoinVeneto|0.013%|0.088%|
|Over the Moon|21K ~ 5M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|TheBigLake|21K ~ 5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|Bitcoin Veneto|52K ~ 4M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|21K ~ 3,446K|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|21K ~ 750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|


# How To Exchange Onchain Bitcoin To Another Layer

||Flow|Feerate|
|:--:|:---:|:----------:|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️▶️⚡|0.09% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.49% + Chain Fee|
|Coinos|⛓️▶️⚡|[0.1%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)
||⚡▶️⛓️|[0.4%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)|
|Boltz|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Eldamar|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Zeus|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|WoS|⛓️▶️⚡|1.95%|
||⚡▶️⛓️|1.95% + WoS Fee|

||Flow|Swap Limit|
|:-:|:----:|:---------------:|
|Boltz|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 25M|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️🔁⚡|100K ~ 25M|
|Zeus|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 5M|
|Eldamar|⛓️🔁⚡|50K ~ 1M|
|Coinos|⚡🔁⛓️|Undefined|
|WoS|⚡🔁⛓️|Undefined|

- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|16K ~ 6M|BitcoinVeneto|0.013%|0.088%|
|Over the Moon|21K ~ 5M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|TheBigLake|21K ~ 5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|Bitcoin Veneto|52K ~ 4M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|21K ~ 3,446K|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|21K ~ 750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|

# Compare Something Else

- Cashu & Fedimint Mints
- - `https://bitcoinmints.com`
- - `https://cashumints.space`
- - `https://observer.fedimint.org`
- WabiSabi Coordinators
- - `https://liquisabi.com`
- - `https://wabisator.com`
- Altruistic Watchtowers
- - `https://github.com/openoms/lightning-node-management/issues/4`
- Private Channel Peers
- - `https://stacker.news/items/758685` 
> Nudge me to redo this 


[^1]: META : Most Effective Tactics Available (yes i'm a gamer). In Bitcoin context, this is a comparison between various apps to find (at least at the surface level) the best app or service within it's own category.
[^2]: I didn't conduct testing on all of these apps listed, all of the informations provided are obtained via documentation (i'd be crazy to regularly test all of these lmao).

Bitcoin Ecosystem 25.10.07

ZBD has fallen

kilianbuhn

Changelogs :
- 
Removals :
|Sub-Category||?|
|:----------------:|:-:|:-:|
|Freelancer|Plebwork|Website down|


Updates :

- Alby Hub [v1.20.0](https://github.com/getAlby/hub/releases/tag/v1.20.0)
- ECash App [v0.2.0](https://github.com/fedimint/ecash-app/releases/tag/v0.2.0)
- Fulmine [v0.3.0](https://github.com/ArkLabsHQ/fulmine/releases/tag/v0.3.0-rc.1)rc1
- Ginger [v2.0.22](https://github.com/GingerPrivacy/GingerWallet/releases/tag/v2.0.22)
- Keeper [v2.5.4](https://github.com/bithyve/bitcoin-keeper/releases/tag/v2.5.4)
- Lexe [v0.8.6](https://github.com/lexe-app/lexe-public/releases/tag/node-v0.8.6)
- Liana [v13](https://github.com/wizardsardine/liana/releases/tag/v13.0rc2)rc2
- Macadamia [v0.4.1](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/macadamia-wallet/id6738696700)
- Noah [2025 0927 1217](https://t.me/blixtwallet/481333/506434)
- Nunchuk (Android) [v1.72.0](https://github.com/nunchuk-io/nunchuk-android/releases/tag/android.1.72.0)
- Nunchuk (iOS) [v1.9.88](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nunchuk-bitcoin-wallet/id1563190073)
- Phoenix [v2.6.6](https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenix/releases/tag/android-v2.6.6)
- Shock [v0.0.21](https://github.com/shocknet/wallet2/releases/tag/v0.0.21-beta)beta
- StashPay [v0.4.9](https://github.com/onionmill/stashpay/releases/tag/0.4.9)
- Zeus [v0.11.5](https://github.com/ZeusLN/zeus/releases/tag/v0.11.5-rc1)rc1
- Nix-Bitcoin [v0.0.130](https://github.com/fort-nix/nix-bitcoin/releases/tag/v0.0.130)
- Bitkey [v2025.18.0](https://github.com/proto-at-block/bitkey/releases/tag/app%2F2025.18.0)
- Krux [v25.09.0](https://github.com/selfcustody/krux/releases/tag/v25.09.0)
- Fedimint [v0.8.2](https://github.com/fedimint/fedimint/releases/tag/v0.8.2-beta.0)beta
- Boltz (Web App) [v1.8.4](https://github.com/BoltzExchange/boltz-web-app/releases/tag/v1.8.4)
- Boltz (Client) [v2.8.7](https://github.com/BoltzExchange/boltz-client/releases/tag/v2.8.7)
- Boltz (BtcPay Plugin) [v2.2.11](https://github.com/BoltzExchange/boltz-btcpay-plugin/releases/tag/v2.2.11)
- Mostro [v0.14.5](https://github.com/MostroP2P/mostro/releases/tag/v0.14.5)
- Mostro (CLI) [v0.13.6](https://github.com/MostroP2P/mostro-cli/releases/tag/v0.13.6)
- Mostro (mobile) [v1.0.1](https://github.com/MostroP2P/mobile/releases/tag/v1.0.1)
- Fountain [v1.3.3](https://fountain.fm)
- Peach [v0.69.0](https://github.com/Peach2Peach/peach-app/releases/tag/v0.69.0)(288)
- Vexl [v1.36.0](https://github.com/vexl-it/vexl/releases/tag/v1.36.0_563)(563)
- Angor [v0.0.98](https://github.com/block-core/angor/releases/tag/0.0.98)
- btcd [v0.25.0](https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/releases/tag/v0.25.0-beta.rc1)betarc1
- Lightning-KMP [v1.10.8](https://github.com/ACINQ/lightning-kmp/releases/tag/v1.10.8)
- Cashu Nutmix [v0.3.8](https://github.com/lescuer97/nutmix/releases/tag/v0.3.8)
- Stratum [v1.5.0](https://github.com/stratum-mining/stratum/releases/tag/v1.5.0)
- Frigate [v1.1.0](https://github.com/sparrowwallet/frigate/releases/tag/1.1.0)
- Fulcrum [v2.0](https://github.com/cculianu/Fulcrum/releases/tag/v2.0.0-pre1)beta
- LNUnit [v1.8.4](https://github.com/nbd-wtf/LNUnit/releases/tag/1.8.4)

- Stacker News [latest commits](https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/commits/master)


# META in Bitcoin Ecosystem
[^1] [^2]

# How To Buy KYC-less Bitcoin

- Exchanges

||Total Cost (Buyer)||Total Cost (Seller)|
|:-:|:------------------------:|:-:|:-------------------------:|
|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) + Seller Premium|Bisq Easy|[0](https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Easy#Trade_fees) - Buyer Discount|
|LNP2PBot|[0](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) + Seller Premium|Peach|[0](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) - Buyer Discount|
|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) + Seller Premium|Vexl|[0](https://vexl.it/faq/others) - Buyer Discount|
|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) + Seller Premium|Mostro|[0.3%](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html) - Buyer Discount|
|Hodl Hodl|[0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) + Seller Premium|Hodl Hodl|[0.5%](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#how-much-does-it-cost-to-use-hodl-hodl) - Buyer Discount|
|Peach|[2%](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading) + Seller Premium|LNP2PBot|[0.6%](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/fees-and-commissions.html) - Buyer Discount|

||Trade Limit|
|:-:|:--------------:|
|Hodl Hodl|[25K](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#what-is-the-minimum-amount-of-bitcoin-i-can-buy-or-sell) ~ [5 Bitcoin](https://hodlhodl.com/faq#limits)/trade|
|Mostro|[100 ~ 20K](https://mostro.network/docs-english/fees-and-limits.html)/trade|
|Peach|[≤1K CHF/day](https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading/#why-is-there-a-trading-limit)|
|LNP2PBot|[Undefined](https://lnp2pbot.com/learn/is-there-a-limit-on-the-amounts-i-can-trade.html)|
|Bisq Easy|[?](https://bisq.wiki/Account_limits)|


- Brokers

||Total Cost (Buyer)||Total Cost (Seller)|
|:-:|:------------------------:|:-:|:-------------------------:|
|Pocket|[1.5%](https://pocketbitcoin.com/faq/are-there-fees-with-pocket)|Pocket|[?](https://pocketbitcoin.com/faq/sell-feature)|
|Bittr|[1.5% + 1 EUR/CHF](https://getbittr.com/support)|
|Azteco|[Undefined](https://help.azte.co/article/27-what-are-the-commission-fees)|

||Trade Limit|
|:-:|:--------------:|
|Bittr|[≤999 EUR,CHF/30 days](https://getbittr.com/support)|
|Pocket|Undefined|
|Azteco|Undefined|


- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|16K ~ 6M|BitcoinVeneto|0.013%|0.088%|
|Over the Moon|21K ~ 5M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|TheBigLake|21K ~ 5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|Bitcoin Veneto|52K ~ 4M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|21K ~ 2,651K|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|21K ~ 750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|


# How To Exchange Onchain Bitcoin To Another Layer

||Flow|Feerate|
|:--:|:---:|:----------:|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️▶️⚡|0.01% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Coinos|⛓️▶️⚡|[0.1%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)
||⚡▶️⛓️|[0.4%](https://t.me/coinoswallet/22940)|
|Boltz|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Eldamar|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|Zeus|⛓️▶️⚡|0.1% + Chain Fee|
||⚡▶️⛓️|0.5% + Chain Fee|
|WoS|⛓️▶️⚡|1.95%|
||⚡▶️⛓️|1.95% + WoS Fee|

||Flow|Swap Limit|
|:-:|:----:|:---------------:|
|Boltz|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 25M|
|Swap Market (Middle Way)|⛓️🔁⚡|100K ~ 25M|
|Zeus|⛓️🔁⚡|25K ~ 5M|
|Eldamar|⛓️🔁⚡|50K ~ 1M|
|Coinos|⚡🔁⛓️|Undefined|
|WoS|⚡🔁⛓️|Undefined|

- Robosats

|Coordinator|Swap Limit|Coordinator|Maker Fee|Taker Fee|
|:-----------------:|:----------------:|:------------------:|:---------------:|:--------------:|
|Temple of Sats|16K ~ 6M|BitcoinVeneto|0.013%|0.088%|
|Over the Moon|21K ~ 5M|Over the moon|0.013%|0.088%|
|TheBigLake|21K ~ 5M|FreedomSats|0.025%|0.175%|
|Bitcoin Veneto|52K ~ 4M|LibreBazaar|0.025%|0.175%|
|LibreBazaar|21K ~ 2,651K|Temple of Sats|0.025%|0.175%|
|FreedomSats|21K ~ 750K|TheBigLake|0.025%|0.175%|

# Compare Something Else

- Cashu & Fedimint Mints
- - `https://bitcoinmints.com`
- - `https://cashumints.space`
- - `https://observer.fedimint.org`
- WabiSabi Coordinators
- - `https://liquisabi.com`
- - `https://wabisator.com`
- Private Channel Peers
- - `https://stacker.news/items/758685` 
> Nudge me to redo this 


[^1]: META : Most Effective Tactics Available (yes i'm a gamer). In Bitcoin context, this is a comparison between various apps to find (at least at the surface level) the best app or service within it's own category.
[^2]: I didn't conduct testing on all of these apps listed, all of the informations provided are obtained via documentation (i'd be crazy to regularly test all of these lmao).

Bitcoin Ecosystem 25.09.28

Bitcoin Ecosystem Map 25.09.21

> The fact that there are no new commits does not mean that, it just works as it is

What's your qualification of abandoned open-source project then ?

Also, the other 7 options (Bitkey, Coldcard, Frostsnap, Jade, Krux, Passport & Seedsigner) are still actively being maintained so there is no point risking to use a year old abandoned project over an active one 

Specter-DIY [was abandoned long time ago](https://github.com/cryptoadvance/specter-diy/commits/master/) and the argument for Bitbox : Bitcoin-only products >>>> altcoins-supported products

Changelogs :

Removals :
|Sub-Category||
|:-----------------:|:-:|
|Lightning Wallet|Lipa|
|Freelancer|Plebwork|

Additions :
|Sub-Category||
|:-----------------:|:-:|
|Fedimint Wallet|ECash App|
|Buyer|Bitika|
|SPV Server|Frigate|

Sub-Category
Lightning Wallet	Lipa
Freelancer	Plebwork