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41 sats \ 1 reply \ @jeff 27 Dec 2024 \ parent \ on: @Undisciplined's bio bitcoin
I know. It definitely changes the economics, but not the fact that I have no time to put in.
I'm happy to basically have donated and participated in this experiment to get it to this point.
Territory cost just halved?
TIL.
I missed that announcement.
All well. Hopefully gets @Undisciplined to a surplus sooner!
To @Undisciplined, and whom it may concern,
cc @siggy47, @grayruby, @OriginalSize, @030e0dca83, @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears, other past crowd funders, and of course the ~econ posters.
The ~econ territory is roughly 1 year old this month. When I originally registered it, I had a fantasy of being able to steer two very cool things 1) an organically growing KYC-free BTC-denominated cashflow turned treasury that I could effectively give away without the trouble of paper-work b) an economically-savvy community that would be intrinsically motivated to help design incentive-backed BTC-adoption games -- seeded, or even sustained, by #1. Seemed like it could be really fun.
Just a few months ago, we started breaking even on a month-to-month, sats-denominated basis, albeit not yet running a cumulative profit. So the fantasy is getting closer, but still far away. However, an inconvenient blessing landed for me; work started ramping up even more. I was recently promoted, so the next 12 to 24 months looks both bright and busy for me. It sounds odd, but I don't have a spare ~2h per month even to update the accounting, or even script it, like I want to, let alone build those games. Family and work need to take priority, for me.
So - @Undisciplined, are you still up for taking over? If so, I have three conditions, and it's yours.
1 - If/when you ever sell or even transfer the territory I get a right of first refusal, at whatever prevailing terms you're seeking, less 300K sats. The roughly ~900K sats I've put in so far, carry forward at a third. Example - if you had a buyer willing to pay 1000K sats, I'd have a right of first refusal to pay you 700K sats. A "buy-it-back-credit" of 300K sats, if you will. If you never sell or transfer, you owe me nothing. If for some reason the buy-it-back-credit becomes incompatible with the future, you can adapt it as you see fit in line with the spirit, intent and magnitude of the claim -- measured in sats.
2 - If/when the features arrive for co-management & governance, you'll consider inviting me back to help with both. You don't have to add me back, but you do have to consider it.
3 - You honor the spirit of the Owner's Pledge, I made during all prior crowd funding. Repeated below for completeness. Since you were by far the largest contributor, the balance of the liability associated with this pledge is empirically on the order of just ~100K sats.
Fair? If not, let me know how to adapt.
Of course, these terms are inked in trust. I trust you to honor them. They are intentionally vague. Expecting high-integrity and in good faith, is sufficient here. At least for me.
I'd transfer today, or within hours of me seeing your acceptance.
Thank you,
@jeff
Owner's Pledge
If this territory ever runs a cumulative net profit, I'll find a way to do right by the earliest contributors. There is no guarantee of that scenario. Most likely, it'll take the form of "pay-it-forward"-style BTC-adoption/effort/charity, commensurate with their contributions.
IMHO, I've got some other macro feature suggestions, that were smarter than this one.
If I wasn't so dang busy with my day job and fam, I'd totally build a serverless-friendly protocol to give territories super powers in terms of customization.
Sorry for your loss @dergigi
ha ha, we do appreciate all contributions to ~@econ! Thank you!
Although, "profitable" is not something I would call ~econ. We are flirting with break-even over the trailing couple months, but definitely in red since inception.
I'm overdue to update the accounting for the last couple months. Will post something soon.
Its my understanding that the gangs in Mexico have a code. A common code. In other countries, the criminals get promoted to "politicians" and "executives", and then the code changes for them.
You know how some people, or phenomenon, are so popular, they can get away with just their first name? Or like, if you add the word "The", in front of the noun, it implies there is just one?
I want to declare this phenomena in this article, as "The Tragedy" - that slow boiling, that this article discusses. Make it so popular, that we can all just use the word non-ironically, to explain the expansion of the state at the cost of prosperity.
This post is the ultimate attestation to how the game is so pathetic and rigged.
There is a metaphorical equivalence to watching FIBA instead of, watching an actual NBA game, or just playing some basketball. Talented, smart people, are literally spending their time making tools to predict the rule-makers' next move, instead of just playing a game. We sit around wondering, "What's the angle?" on this one specific rule-maker-watcher, because it doesn't match the consensus coming from other rule-maker-watchers.
The tragedy would have been if the band didn't move on. I look forward to what they put out together.
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Given 38K in donations for September, rent at 100K, and a 289 post forecast, the ~econ posting fee is (amazingly!) unchanged.
The next FOMC announcement will be around ~2024/10/08 13h00 UTC.
If you'd like to see lower posting fees for ~econ, please consider donating in the next monthly crowd funding.
Note to future self: @siggy47 donated 10K to the top-level post, not the comment.
Correction: @Undisciplined donated 25K last month, not @Undisiplined
🙏 Please Donate for September 2024
In August, we got very close to breaking even on a total-revenue+donation basis! Which means if donations are flat this month (ie >= ~38K), and there is just a tiny bit of growth, we might be close to a point where sustainability is in reach.
In line with the plan to achieve sustainability (break-even), donations will directly reduce the posting fee, such that donations + forecasted posting fees - monthly rent = 0. The "forecast" will just use the prior month's post-count for one more month. After September, we will introduce a dampening mechanism as discussed a month ago, to smooth out post-fee changes.
The next Fee Operation Management Committee will announce new posting fees according to the following schedule:
- ~2024/09/09 13h00 UTC
- ~2024/10/08 13h00 UTC
- ~2024/11/09 13h00 UTC
Note that I'm dropping the block-numbers, because I'm mixing them up with SN post #s.
Accounting Notes
August Crowd Funding
Crowd Funded Contributions for August 2024 - thank-you!
@Undisiplined - 25K
@siggy47 - 5K
@grayruby - 3K
@anons - 5.2K
Total Crowd Funding = 38.2K
August Revenue
56.7K according to the operational stats.
Posting Notes
Forecasted Posts in August= 287
Actual Posts in August = 289
Forecasted Posts in September = 289
Surplus of 2 posts vs forecast.
Treasury was 41K at end of May. I'm holding off ratifying rules around treasury burn until I see signs of stability in modelling the future. We're still bleeding money, albeit less slowly now, and @jeff is plugging the holes.
Short Term Priorities & Goals
These are unchanged.
- Break even with crowdfunding
- Break even without crowdfunding
- Build up treasury
- Run incentive backed games
Build Tooling
Operational Metrics
All-Time
1.9m stacked \ 177.8k revenue \ 2.3m spent \ 2942 posts \ 14.5k comments
~ 4 weeks in March @ 10 sats-per-post:
215.7k stacked \ 19k revenue \ 247.3k spent \ 588 posts \ 1755 comments
April (proper):
277.9k stacked \ 26.8k revenue \ 322k spent \ 605 posts \ 2303 comments
~4 weeks in April @ 21 sats-per-post:
203.9k stacked \ 24.6k revenue \ 239.3k spent \ 537 posts \ 2151 comments
May (proper):
149.5k stacked \ 27.8k revenue \ 194.8k spent \ 380 posts \ 2095 comments
~4 weeks in May @ 100 sats-per-post:
105.3k stacked \ 26k revenue \ 144.6k spent \ 326 posts \ 1919 comments
June (proper):
253.4k stacked \ 36.8k revenue \ 327.1k spent \ 331 posts \ 2297 comments
~4 weeks in June @ 136 sats-per-post:
260.4k stacked \ 35.5k revenue \ 332.4k spent \ 327 posts \ 2551 comments
July (proper):
339.4k stacked \ 40.9k revenue \ 423.8k spent \ 287 posts \ 2662 comments
~4 weeks in July @ 187 sats-per-post:
307.8k stacked \ 39.2k revenue \ 389.6k spent \ 250 posts \ 2230 comments
August (proper):
263.5k stacked \ 56.7k revenue \ 376.7k spent \ 289 posts \ 2905 comments
~4 weeks in August @ 215 sats-per-post
189.3k stacked \ 75.8k revenue \ 339.4k spent \ 246 posts \ 2273 comments
Territory Change Log
2024/08/11 - Increased the posting fee to 215 @ 644200
Owner's Pledge
If this territory ever runs a cumulative net profit, I'll find a way to do right by the earliest contributors. There is no guarantee of that scenario. Most likely, it'll take the form of "pay-it-forward"-style BTC-adoption/effort/charity.
Disclaimer
Do not donate with the expectation of receiving a share of future profits. This is not a security offering.
Prior Updates
August 2024 637435
July 2024 601808
June 2024 566281
May 2024 526847
April 2024 493332
March 2024 448054
Additional Notes
There was a material uptick in my own accounts income from referrals. I'm trying to figure out if that is tied to the territory or not. If anybody knows, it would be helpful to understand as it might impact my model.