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This was an interesting discussion between Naval Ravikant and Aaron Stupple on the Tim Ferris show. It revolves around Stupples' book The Sovereign Child.
Both Naval and Aaron are "unschooling" their kids and its interesting to hear their different approaches. Stupple has 5 kids and is raising them without any constraints including sugary foods and screen time.
It's 3 hours long so there's a lot to take in. Well worth a listen for any parents
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123 sats \ 0 replies \ @Msd0457890 7h
Excellent podcast, thank you for sharing it with all of us who have children.As parents, we must give children some freedom, but not all of it, because there will always be rules. At this moment, what children see on social media and how independent they have become has a great influence on what the adults of tomorrow will be.
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Some of my cousins were raised as "sovereign kids", i.e. without any rules inside or outside the house. So-called free education. Their parents believed that the kids should figure out by themselves what was ok and not ok. They would never get scolded. When I or my siblings would interact with them, it was awful. The kids were insufferable. They would push us, tease us, etc but the parents would say nothing as this would be against their philosophy. I do not have fond memories of spending time with them.
I met one of those kids again as adults. He seem to be a well-adjusted adults now. Very friendly and mature. So, even though it was hard for others around them as kids, seems like this free education approach mostly worked out.
I don't think I'm cut out for this approach with my own kid though, so clear rules are part of his education.
I'm sorry if I misinterpreted the meaning of what is meant by "sovereign kids" in the video. I don't want to listen to 3 hours of Tim Ferris~~
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Stupple goes into how they deal with problems as they come up and try to find creative ways to deal with it. The example you gave... I know the type. Parents who want to be best friends with their kids usually creates spoilt bratty kids. I think Stupples approach is very hands on intensive but its through a different process.
It might not be for everyone. After listening I tried a few things but it quickly went back to me telling my son what he should or shouldn't do. I will read the book though and try to get some better habits for parenting.
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I see. If there is a book, I'd be more likely to get into it. I somehow can't sit down for hour long podcasts, yet a book is no issue.
Parents who want to be best friends with their kids
It's not even that they wanted to be best friends, it's just that boundaries were not really part of the way a kid was supposed to learn. I should have asked him about it when i met him last time, as I only remember the interpretation from their annoying behavior from second-hand discussions with my parents. Sounds quite interesting.
At the same time, kids are so free these days in Korea that I feel like my kid needs a bit more discipline. One of his teachers told us we should not scold him for being impolite to her. Even though we could hear the bad words he was using when talking to her. How will he learn if neither the teacher or us tell him he should not be talking to adults like that? He's 5.
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I have a pretty superficial understanding since I've only listened to this podcast. As I understood they try to raise the kids respectfully like how you would talk to other adults. If someone was being rude or being a dick you could just opt out. How they teach that? I'm not sure.
There was an example he gave of one of his kids licking every lollypop in the box. They just left it there for a few days and she never went back to it. So his kid came to her own conclusion that too much sugar makes you feel sick. Not because she was told so.
I think he's releasing a PDF version of the book for like a dollar in a week or so. I'll tag you when I see it.
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