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960 sats \ 6 comments \ @brandonsbytes 20 Jan culture

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254 sats \ 5 replies \ @elvismercury 20 Jan

And I think it's directly responsible for the rise of so-called populist movements all over Europe. They're directly downstream from the original theses of success in cultural integration going through just-try-harder efforts as well as the multicultural compromise. A pair of ideas that had buy-in across much of the European board until reality simply became too intolerable for too many who had to live with the consequences.

So much truth in this, IMO. A cautionary tale when you let what you want to be true get in the way of what the world is demonstrating is true. A lesson for everyone, for all of time.

419 sats \ 2 replies \ @SimpleStacker 20 Jan

Are people learning the cautionary tale?

So, speaking as someone who works at a university, I kinda see why the elite cannot grasp their heads around this. Academia is an incredibly diverse place, both in terms of ethnicity and nationality. So they think to themselves, "well, my foreign colleagues are great, the people who don't like foreigners must be racist."

But what they fail to see is that although academia is ethnically diverse, it is not multicultural. It is unicultural and all these people of different ethnicities tend to share very similar values and outlooks on life. So I think they have a blindspot in terms of what multiculturalism really looks like outside their elite bubbles.

213 sats \ 1 reply \ @elvismercury 20 Jan

Are people learning the cautionary tale?

I suppose not, no more than they ever do.

I kinda see why the elite cannot grasp their heads around this.

This seems plausible, and is an example of a more general problem: when people are able to isolate themselves from the consequences of things, they can hold onto all kinds of notions that more intimate practitioners can't.

But what they fail to see is that although academia is ethnically diverse, it is not multicultural.

Under-rated take. The annoying thing is that diversity really is amazingly valuable. People are just generally extremely limited in how the think about the concept.

35 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 20 Jan

Yeah, they think of multiculturalism in terms of food and holidays and traditions like what the wedding ceremonies look like.

But their value systems and how they raise their children are pretty much 99% aligned.

249 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 20 Jan

such a crazy self own.

western countries have their choice of literally billions of hard-working immigrants... why not be a little selective??? How about as a start choosing people that love your culture, speak your language and want to integrate into your society and don't hate you.

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 20 Jan

Top down action eventually comes back at those at the top.