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SN release: improve rewards, remote signing nostr login, wallet timeouts

22.7k sats \ 43 comments \ @k00b 18 Dec meta

rewards

Rewards are distributed to more than 100 stackers per day (like pre-march).
Large zaps, even if late, are rewarded more. Early, large zaps are still the most "valuable" zaps but large, late ones weren't rewarded proportionally prior.
Rewards are no longer dictated by a fixed distribution (like pre-march)

We'll probably continue to tweak rewards, including communicating the categories you're earning rewards in, but this is the start.

@rblb implemented nip-46 which allows you to login with nostr without an extension using apps like Nsec.app or nsecBunker.

attempting to create or pay an invoice now times out

This is more of a behind the scenes feature than anything, but this basically allows us to fail unresponsive wallets faster. (via @ek)

We didn't do a release announcement for this, but we previously shipped receiver fallbacks. Meaning, like with sender fallbacks, if you have multiple receiver wallets configured, we will try to pay each in priority order until one succeeds. (via @ek)

on jan 3, we're making the non-custodial switch

I'll pin a post today, but the more fyi's the better.

View all commits here: https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/commits/master/

I'll pay out bounties for all the fixes in this release after posting this.

Since starting the Open Source Contributor Award Rules (OSCARs), we've paid a total of 13.9m sats to 39 contributors for 163 contributions! View an up to date list of contribution awards here: https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/blob/master/awards.csv

Previous release: #796464

We are hiring.

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286 sats \ 1 reply \ @brugeman 19 Dec

Nip46 works, awesome!

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 19 Dec

Very long in the making 👀

271 sats \ 1 reply \ @0xbitcoiner 18 Dec

I was going to ask if the changes to the algorithm were already in place, the leaderboard updated ahead of time! Well done, I think it's fairer. Good job sn team!

154 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 18 Dec

That's the idea. I have a few more tweaks that occurred to me after these changes that I'll back test and deploy soon.

127 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 18 Dec

What constitutes a large zap? 1k or more?

Also can you elaborate on "rewards are no longer dictated by a fixed distribution".

104 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b OP 18 Dec

Large is relative. So, if a post/comment is good, and you zap more relative to others, you'll be rewarded more than others all things being equal.

Also can you elaborate on "rewards are no longer dictated by a fixed distribution".

For MSM, we gave each spot in The Rewarded 100 a fixed percentage of the rewards pool. Now, you're simply rewarded relative to other stackers that day, e.g. if you provide twice the "value," you're rewarded twice as much.

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 18 Dec

Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.

241 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 18 Dec

on jan 3, we're making the non-custodial switch

41 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 18 Dec

141 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 18 Dec

18 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 18 Dec

Nice work, team!

23 sats \ 0 replies \ @Taft 18 Dec

Rewards are distributed to more than 100 stackers per day (like pre-march).

I like this and I think it’s fair this way.

43 sats \ 3 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 18 Dec

@siggy47, can you satisfy my curiosity? Are you the king of the hill on the leaderboard? 🤠

62 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 18 Dec

Yes I can, and no I'm not. Some mystery guest has been atop the board lately, and it's not me.

43 sats \ 1 reply \ @0xbitcoiner 18 Dec

Thanks. I was betting it was you, but if you say no, I'll believe it.

83 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 18 Dec

Sometimes it is. Lately two or three of us hidden accounts have been jockeying. Maybe this new system will improve things. I really think rewarding larger even if later zaps will improve things here.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 18 Dec

I'll pay out bounties for all the fixes in this release after posting this.

Copy pasta

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @Roll 18 Dec

i need one more precision cause i ve a doubt:

The rewards are not regarding the amount of sats you spend per day but regarding more on large amount of sats you spend per post or per day ?

31 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 18 Dec

https://stacker.news/faq#how-do-i-earn-sats-on-stacker-news

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @Roll 18 Dec

i do not find the explanation:

-"Rewards are distributed to more than 100 stackers per day (like pre-march)." -why 100 and not 50 or 200 ?

31 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 18 Dec

because paying only the top 100 stackers was the rule of Million Sat Madness v2 (for v1, see here)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Roll 18 Dec

thks but the system is quite complex at the end, no ?

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 18 Dec

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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @698f12932a 18 Dec

Summary

Stacker News recently improved its rewards system, distributing them to over 100 users daily, prioritizing larger and earlier zaps. They've also implemented NIP-46, enabling Nostr logins via apps like Nsec.app or nsecBunker without browser extensions. Wallet timeout issues during invoice creation/payment have been addressed for improved responsiveness. Receiver fallbacks were quietly added, allowing payments to multiple wallets sequentially until success. A non-custodial switch is planned for January 3rd. Finally, the platform highlights 13.9m sats paid to 39 contributors since implementing the Open Source Contributor Award Rules (OSCARs). They are also currently hiring.

51 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b OP 18 Dec

dafuq that's more verbose than my post

19 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 19 Dec

AI gonna AI

31 sats \ 4 replies \ @Coinsreporter 18 Dec

like pre-march

Where can we get information how was it pre march? I don't know/remember how that was.

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b OP 18 Dec

It's just like I described: not limited to 100 and rewards aren't given on a fixed distribution.

245 sats \ 2 replies \ @anon 18 Dec

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 18 Dec

I approve the meme idea but I don't approve the usage of foxes as assmilkers

55 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 18 Dec

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei 19 Dec

I like how you keep us on our toes by making changes ever so often. It keeps SN fresh n forces us to adapt regularly!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Maximux 19 Dec

It is pleasant to see how the Platform continues to be continually updated. Everyone who does the hard work to make SN last and improve has my thanks👏

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @TheMorningStar 19 Dec

Let's see how it works out in future but I'm already seeing some heavy cut in sats for lower ranks.

Yesterday I recieved 1483 sats onn rank 23 but today rank 23 is going to get half. And the real change is at the top that you made top heavy.

I don't know what you intend but the top is going to be fixed to those who can zap large. For zapping more, people really need to have surplus of Sats. What about people like me? I don't have much stack to zap large. But I used to zap and read top content daily.

I think small zappers are out of equation from rewards now.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 19 Dec

You can still earn with good content! Lots of people do well without zapping at all. Rsync is a great example.

I'm not saying it's perfect (also I need to nerf myself out of ranking high), but it isn't fair to generous people to reward people that aren't generous more than them. We all want the big zappers to continue to have more sats, because they'll actually spend them!

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar 19 Dec

This is gonna be huge....

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 18 Dec

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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Roll 18 Dec

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21 sats \ 4 replies \ @k00b OP 18 Dec

https://stacker.news/stackers/day

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Roll 18 Dec

sorry i found those datas afterwards but thks

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Roll 18 Dec

i ve dificulites to understand the charts, sorry, but...

-When you pay a post 100 sats but no one rewards the post for it. Those sats are going to the owner of the teritories, right ? where can i find the total amount per territory received and spend by the owner per day/per week/ per month.. ?

-where can i find the rewards details received per stackers per day/per week/ per month.. ?

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b OP 18 Dec

https://stacker.news/top/territories/month?by=revenue

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Roll 18 Dec

thks