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There's a Bit of Truth To Some Climate Conspiracy Theories.time.com/6259474/climate-conspiracy-theories-fear/

133 sats \ 14 comments \ @Imyourfed 26 Nov conspiracy

“No, it isn’t the handiwork of the WEF and it isn’t part of a global plot to imprison us in our homes,” he wrote, “but erecting cameras to spy on car-users and fining those who drive to certain parts of their own city, all with the intention of pressuring us to walk instead, is a breed of lockdown.”

One of the classic approaches used to stop any critical thought about the actions those in positions of power is to highlight the least logical criticism of their policies and group all dissent into the same box. Its a sort of straw man technique that I've seen used over and over.

This quote is a great example. What is the WEF? Well lets just repeat what they say they are.

The World Economic Forum (WEF) is an independent international organization committed to improving the state of the world by engaging business, political, academic, and other leaders of society to shape global, regional, and industry agendas.

Now, does that mean they rule the world? No

Does that mean every policy that aligns with WEF messaging is directly from them? No.

But if your stated goal is to shape world agendas and people see their local and national governments adopting polices that have been promoted by the WEF they will make the connection. This isn't a conspiracy theory. Its being observant.

One of the goals of the WEF is to train leaders up in how to promote the agenda of the WEF at the local, state, and national level. It is a conspiracy. But not a theory. Its by design.

The WEF is literally backed and supported by some of the most powerful and influential people in the world. You know, like the King of England. Its not like they hid their agenda. They are proud of it. And those that simply disagree with it are called conspiracy theorists...

Its just too much.

Good ideas or bad, climate shenanigans like camera-based driving schemes and billionaire solar geoengineering proposals aren’t coming out of some Bond villain lair. They’re just people trying something, anything, to get us back to normal.

Many people over-simplify and try to make stronger connections than can be made with facts and reason. That's fair. But what is so bad about individuals not being pleased about the changes they see around them. Changes being pushed by global elites and billionaires. People that talk down to them. People that paint them as dumb gullible idiots.

Its interesting when journalists expose their real thoughts about the masses. It often contradicts what they claim to believe. That the masses have consented to grant "their" governments power over them. The so-called "Social Contract". But when these masses push back, they need to be told what to think and exposed as gullible idiots.

The truth is, democracy is just a trick to keep the plebs in line. To make them think they have a voice while the grownups keep the world on target. The masses just are to dumb to govern their own lives. They need to elite to do it for them. And these lowly plebs don't even appreciate it!

66 sats \ 1 reply \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 27 Nov

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” (From “God in the Dock”)

“It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.”

Chesterton and Lewis had it right!

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 27 Nov

Amen

21 sats \ 8 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 27 Nov

It’s far from the only climate conspiracy that’s been making headway online lately. The odd part, though, is that there seems to be a grain of truth to the hoopla, depending on how you look at things. It’s less that the conspiracists have gotten any of their facts straight—they don’t do so well in that department—than that they’re putting their finger on the weirdness of this moment in the climate fight, and the strange, new, often disquieting aspects of some of the efforts meant to address it.

MOCKINGBIRD MAN This guy has to be the original mockingbird man! He is covering for the stratospheric aerosol injection crowd. Take a look at the weather, do you think the “once in a lifetime” floods that are occurring everywhere are natural? Yep, you’re right, I do to. Ice floods in Saudi Arabia? Flooding where it has never occurred before? It comes down to somebody, who does not like humans, is controlling the weather to “cull the herd”.

10 sats \ 7 replies \ @john_doe 27 Nov

I think it is hard to know. Although I have been thinking intuitively the same thing when I heard about multiple floods at very different points of the planet in the same period. But there are also once in a lifetime earthquakes, like in 1923 in Tokyo. Or like in 2011 in the Northern part of Japan. I have heard in the past that bad agriculture (removing forests, using pesticides in monoculture, etc) causes landslides. So many landslides seen in TV could be human made. For floods I think it is hard to know, it could be news which emphasize events which were occuring before but we just notice now because of propaganda. It could be artificially created like landslides. So I am curious, do you have any information about human intervention which would have caused floodings seen this year?

21 sats \ 6 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 27 Nov

Look to the skies! Open your eyes!

20 sats \ 5 replies \ @john_doe 27 Nov

Ah I see. I have been to Europe recently after not being there for 10 years, and a lot of times I was looking at trails in the sky that I think I never see in Asia. Good point, thanks.

21 sats \ 4 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 27 Nov

You can see them in the US and Australia as well. Other places, I don’t know. They are not contrails, you’ve seen those before.

20 sats \ 3 replies \ @john_doe 27 Nov

I have a watched one or two US documentaries in the past about this, so I understand what you mean. I don't remember having seen it in East Asia and South-East Asia. I am in Africa now, and the sky is "normal" (blue, clouds, colors in the evening). But indeed I visited Europe recently and I could see in the sky many persistent lines (I think you call it chemtrails), the sunlight was very weak, the weather depressing and in shops I heard people talking about floods and climate propaganda. Maybe for the sunlight it is normal but at least for the chemtrails in the sky it is quite striking as a difference when coming from a different continent.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 27 Nov

Yes, I would say it should make a huge difference. People taken in by the Green scam who have bought photovoltaic panels for their electrical generation have found them not working as advertised. They are not getting the sunlight that they need to generate electricty because of the crap in the sky.

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @john_doe 27 Nov

hahaha. I remember having seen advertisements with people showing how they set up solar panels in shadows of trees in a big city. To be honest I am quite a solar panel proponent as I used it for camping and my battery has been useful after an earthquake as well. But sometimes I see houses with solar panels with a shadow from the neighboring house... And I know that when there is a small shadow on a cell, the whole row produces negligible electricity, so their installation must be bad.