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Question on tools like SimpleX - how to avoid spam and trash posts?

131 sats \ 9 comments \ @Signal312 5 Oct privacy

What's the strategy for avoiding trash talk and junk in these kinds of apps?

I was looking at a Robosats Simplex group that was basically invaded by some people ranting on and on about veganism, and monero.

It feels like that kind of invasion can make a group useless, by causing there to be so much useless text in it. In the corresponding Telegram group, that kind of behavior didn't happen.

What are the options?

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144 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xIlmari 5 Oct

The simplest solution to spam is requiring the sender to pay the recipient money, e.g. by sending a zap or an ecash token along the message.

But we've all grown so entitled to free technology, I can understand why it's a hard pill to swallow.

34 sats \ 2 replies \ @OT 5 Oct

Can't the moderators kick them out?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 OP 5 Oct

I think the problem is that they can come right back in. There's no permanent id required. On Telegram it's very hard to get a new login, so once you were kicked out, it was hard to get back in.

34 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 5 Oct

Right. I notice that on signal they can be kicked out, and you also get a notification that they changed their name.

34 sats \ 2 replies \ @eroc1990 5 Oct

0xchat? If nothing else, most people won't be on Nostr yet anyway, so it might wind up working out that you and a select few others are the only ones that know of the room's existence.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @wingalt 5 Oct

There is also a Robosats 0xchat but like the Simplex chat there are not many people there, that's why unrelated topics can take over because not much about Robosats is discussed at the moment

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Signal312 OP 5 Oct

Yeah Robosats support/chat seems to be spread kind of thin, because people are now (still mostly) on Telegram, and also SimpleX and 0xchat. I'm assuming that when the Telegram group is completely closed, there will be more traffic on the other options.

But that's when I wonder how they'll be able to get rid of the people who are just trolling.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Thereal 5 Oct

The Stackernet idea is the so far I have ever seen

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Signal312 OP 5 Oct

I just checked out this page of their(https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/blob/stable/README.md). Here's some info:

You must:

be polite to other users

avoid spam (too frequent messages, even if they are relevant)

avoid any personal attacks or hostility.

avoid sharing any content that is not relevant to the above (that includes, but is not limited to, discussing politics or any aspects of society other than privacy, security, technology and communications, sharing any content that may be found offensive by other users, etc.).

Messages not following these rules will be deleted, the right to send messages may be revoked, and the access to the new members to the group may be temporarily restricted, to prevent re-joining under a different name - our imperfect group moderation does not have a better solution at the moment.

I wonder how this could be accomplished. Maybe by having a fee (in sats) to post on the forums? At least it might slow down the spam.

Or have some kind of muting service? A person (or bot) who determines who's a valuable contributor, vs who's just trolling. Then people could subscribe to that service.

All possible with sats...