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Political Culture In Germany: Where Violence Is Accelerating

793 sats \ 32 comments \ @TomK 3 Oct Politics_And_Law

The political climate is poisoned in large parts of the West. Germany is no exception. Above all, the extreme left is extremely mobilized thanks to a completely unleashed media climate to physically bring political opponents to their knees. Values and ethics are disappearing, personal responsability need to build up again.

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79 sats \ 6 replies \ @stack_harder 3 Oct

crazy how the left used to be the peaceful ones and now they've gone militant

68 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 3 Oct

The left found religion, that’s why.

31 sats \ 4 replies \ @jgbtc 3 Oct

They were never peaceful. There was Weather Underground in the 60s for example.

47 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 3 Oct

I think he means that people who cared about peace used to associate strongly with the left, not that everyone on the left was peaceful.

51 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK OP 3 Oct

Long long time ago...

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @stack_harder 3 Oct

this

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 3 Oct

Good example

I saw an interview with Bill Ayer’s wife by Donahue. He interviewed her in prison

199 sats \ 18 replies \ @alt_account 3 Oct

Original article

A different source reports a similar left-right asymmetry, but much less pronounced than what is claimed here. Numbers are also based on the Interior Ministry.

The Interior Ministry attributed 544 crimes to actors with a left-wing motive and 393 to the right wing, and reported that 532 could not be attributed. Four incidents were put down to a "foreign ideology" and over 60 were aimed at small parties not represented in the German parliament.

These numbers are already worrying, no need to use them for your own political agenda.

@TomK does not want you to have an informed opinion. It would cost him nothing to provide a link to the original article, yet he doesn't. He wants to trigger your basic instincts. That's what works best in today's TikTok culture. Read, question, be critical. Do not fall prey to his tactics.

42 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK OP 3 Oct

You are an idiot. Search for Yourself, anybody who at least has one functioning brain cell can see how the radical left is weaponizing the system against political enemies (Trump is the best example) and using the media to protect their sick agenda. Anon, You are literally the dumbest idiot here on SN.

68 sats \ 16 replies \ @siggy47 3 Oct

I'm curious to know your take on CJ Hopkins' case: https://consentfactory.org/2024/10/01/guilty/

64 sats \ 11 replies \ @TomK OP 3 Oct

I am not a lawyer, but it all starts with the great deception of the separation of powers. all three powers derive from the same institution, the state. And we can now see how these powers are merging into a single unit of power and systematically silencing dissenting voices. From my point of view, as a legal amateur, this case is an example of what is to come: more and more opinion control, canceling and censorship.

68 sats \ 10 replies \ @siggy47 3 Oct

You and I are fellow libertarians, so of course I agree. 😀 I also know not everyone agrees with us.

107 sats \ 9 replies \ @TomK OP 3 Oct

It's important to stress the harm that is done by weaponizing the legal system to cancel political enemies

47 sats \ 7 replies \ @south_korea_ln 3 Oct

It's important to stress the harm that is done by weaponizing the legal system to cancel political enemies

Fully agree. That's one of the reasons I despise both the political left and right in the US.

47 sats \ 6 replies \ @Bell_curve 3 Oct

Weaponizing the legal system is done by the left exclusively

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @south_korea_ln 3 Oct

Mitch McConnell would beg to disagree :)

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47 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 3 Oct

We wouldn't know anything about that in the US😀

43 sats \ 3 replies \ @alt_account 3 Oct

Not sure I have a definite take.

I only know about this story from what I (briefly) read in this article.

The double standards are condemnable: why would CJ Hopkins be more deserving of a guilty verdict than Stern or Der Spiegel who used similar imagery? He probably isn't. Based solely on the facts are reported in this article, he seems to be in the right to complain about this verdict. If all he did was using some Nazi imagery to get his point across, especially against the government, I'm all for it. Maybe, personally, I don't fully agree with free speech if it is targeted at other individuals possibly causing them personal harm. But I don't care if it is targeted at the government.

For Americans, it is hard to understand European law. Free speech is not absolute in Europe (it also isn't in the US, but let's not go there). Elon Musk is a prime example of someone with such a mindset. He often tweets angrily about EU members being trialed for hate speech. As another example of how US and EU are different: in several EU countries it is also illegal to deny the holocaust. It is hard for me to understand why anyone would deny something that has been documented quite convincingly, but it's a slippery slope where ostracizing these people has made the right-wing stronger and stronger. So I'd rather have open and honest dialogues about such topics rather than use repression tactics. It tends to backfire if one doesn't.

Overall, I think oppression of free speech is a slippery slope similar to how censorship is a slippery slope. Who draws the line as to what is allowed and what isn't? So, as said before, CJ Hopkins seems to be in the right to speak up about this injustice he suffered.

I'm not fluent in legalise, so this not a very structured answer, sorry for that.

64 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK OP 3 Oct

we have criminal law to sanction insults, insinuations or false allegations accordingly. there must be absolute freedom of expression for this to make any sense at all.

68 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 3 Oct

Thanks for your informative reply. As a US citizen, I am aware that I can't assume similar free speech rights exist in other countries.

47 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 3 Oct

Oppression of free speech is censorship and vice versa.

Freedom of speech is a restraint on government not an incitement for the citizen