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362 sats \ 43 comments \ @supratic 20 Jul Education

The love of Money is the root of all evil:

(1 Timothy 6: to 10)

If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury. Exodus 22:25

Take no usury of him, or increase... thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury. Leviticus 25:36-37 Unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: That the Lord thy God may bless thee. Deuteronomy 23:20

In the early Church, any interest on debt was considered usury. Read below to see what interest (usury) on debts, a violation of God's Law, is doing to America.

𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔑𝔢𝔴𝔰.

𝐴-8 𝐿𝑦𝑛𝑐ℎ𝑏𝑢𝑟𝑔, 𝑉𝑎., 𝑆𝑎𝑡., 𝑀𝑎𝑟𝑐ℎ 𝟐𝟔, 𝟏𝟗𝟕𝟕

The National Debt

In 1901 the national debt of the United States was less than $1 billion. It stayed at less than $1 billion until we got into World War 1. Then it jumped to $25 billion. Between 1918 and 1941, on the eve of World War II, the national debt just about doubled - from $25 to $49 billion. Between 1942 and 1952, the debt went from $72 billion to $265 billion. In 1962 it was $303 billion. Eight years later, in 1970, it was $383 billion. Between 1971 and 1976 it rose from $409 billion to $631 billion. The estimated debt at the end of this year is $727 billion, and next year it is expected to top $800 billion - having nearly doubled in the past eight years. If the present trend continues, and there is no evidence whatsoever that it will not continue, we can expect the national debt to nearly double again within the next six to eight years. By then, the interest on the debt alone should be in the $400 billion a year range. Eventually, the government will own nothing, the people will own nothing, the banks will own everything.

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0 replies \ @supratic OP 20 Jul

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0 replies \ @supratic OP 25 Jul

This is a chapter of the book

Billions for Bankers & Debts for the People

The Real Story of the Money-Control Over America - by Pastor Sheldon Emry

Give it a read! Start from the...

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23 sats \ 22 replies \ @Octopus 20 Jul

Umm although money is everything

13 sats \ 21 replies \ @supratic OP 20 Jul

why? do you think you can't live without money?

23 sats \ 10 replies \ @SpaceHodler 20 Jul

You could live without money, but then you wouldn't be posting here, because you wouldn't have a PC or smartphone.

13 sats \ 9 replies \ @supratic OP 20 Jul

there are other ways to pay without money, and get anything one may need

38 sats \ 7 replies \ @SpaceHodler 20 Jul

You could pay with cows, but that would make cows money. A particularly inefficient form thereof.

121 sats \ 6 replies \ @Bell_curve 20 Jul

The only people who praise the barter system have never bartered.

Evil is the root of money. If we could operate under the honor system we would not need money. We demand immediate cash payment from people or strangers we don’t trust.

13 sats \ 5 replies \ @supratic OP 20 Jul

If we could operate under the honor system we would not need money.

Please tell me more about this! Any way, we can learn more on how to go in this direction?

164 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 20 Jul

If my brother wants to buy something from me he can pay me later.

If a stranger wants to buy something from me he has to pay now.

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113 sats \ 8 replies \ @SpaceHodler 20 Jul

Study Austrian economics and you'll understand the value of money. As well as time preference, which interest rates arise from.

13 sats \ 7 replies \ @supratic OP 20 Jul

I struggle to understand the value of fiat money. I understand money as debt, IOU, a promise to pay you later... or never!

13 sats \ 6 replies \ @Enemy_of_the_state 20 Jul

Fiat is valuable because others will accept it in trade for things you want.

A debt, IOU, all of these things are credit. Credit works in a high trust environment, and is more efficient than money. A tribe less than Dunbar’s number doesn’t need money. Credit, in the form of reputation, is sufficient.

For strangers, money is essential because neither party knows the reputation of the other. Or maybe they have a bad reputation. With money, antagonistic parties can still trade and benefit from the trade. With credit, the trade would never take place. Money allows trade that might turn enemies into friends.

Money is not the root of all evil. The LOVE of money is, because it’s better to love your wife, your children, and God. Loving money gets in the way of that.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Bell_curve 20 Jul

150 persons

13 sats \ 0 replies \ @Enemy_of_the_state 20 Jul

The Garden of Eden was the entire Earth, bands of people hunting aurochs and mammoths. Must have been something. Not really a garden, more of a hunting ground.

Agriculture was the great sin of man, chaining us to the land and killing each other for it.

13 sats \ 3 replies \ @supratic OP 20 Jul

do you mean 150%?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 20 Jul

Dunbar's number is 150 people https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsbl.2021.0158

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13 sats \ 0 replies \ @5d586573ac 20 Jul

Umm it so bitter truth 😞

35 sats \ 1 reply \ @MarsIronPI 20 Jul

“So you think that money is the root of all evil?”, said Francisco d’Anconia. “Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can’t exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?

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Money rests on the axiom that every man is the owner of his mind and his effort. Money allows no power to prescribe the value of your effort except the voluntary choice of the man who is willing to trade you his effort in return. Money permits you to obtain for your goods and your labor that which they are worth to the men who buy them, but no more. Money permits no deals except those to mutual benefit by the unforced judgment of the traders. Money demands of you the recognition that men must work for their own benefit, not for their own injury, for their gain, not their loss — the recognition that they are not beasts of burden, born to carry the weight of your misery — that you must offer them values, not wounds — that the common bond among men is not the exchange of suffering, but the exchange of goods. Money demands that you sell, not your weakness to men’s stupidity, but your talent to their reason; it demands that you buy, not the shoddiest they offer, but the best that your money can find. And when men live by trade — with reason, not force, as their final arbiter — it is the best product that wins, the best performance, the man of best judgment and highest ability — and the degree of a man’s productiveness is the degree of his reward. This is the code of existence whose tool and symbol is money. Is this what you consider evil?

— Francisco Danconia, Atlas Shrugged

I agree that our national debt is ridiculous, but money is not the problem here.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @supratic OP 20 Jul

Thanks for bringing it up, great reference!

35 sats \ 0 replies \ @Lux 20 Jul

1 Timothy 6:10 Money in itself is neither good nor bad. It is the love of money (covetousness) that is evil, and indeed the root of all types of evil. Therefore, it is not wrong for believers to be well off—so long as they do not take pride in their riches but use them “to do good.”

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Timothy%206:10

13 sats \ 0 replies \ @Hodladi 20 Jul

If with money you mean bitcoin, then I love money too!

13 sats \ 2 replies \ @03bcf32596 20 Jul

I guess us bitcoiners are gonna burn in hell then.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @supratic OP 21 Jul

I guess it is just about how you use it, if you exchange it back for fiat you're definitely going to burn in hell then.

14 sats \ 0 replies \ @03bcf32596 21 Jul

I don't the almighty lord cares what type of money it is, digital or phyisical, fiat or crypto. We all burn together.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @LowK3y19 16 Dec

Money is the root of all evil but we all need that c.r.e.a.m dream

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @IamSINGLE 21 Jul

The National debt is 'the proof of love's.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @supratic OP 21 Jul

I thought it was a wealth measurement scale!

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Coinsreporter 21 Jul

If we talk about money in terms of fiat, that's no money at all!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @supratic OP 21 Jul

From my perspective it applies to any type of money, shells, stones, salt, cigarettes, rice... whatever you're using!

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Bell_curve 20 Jul

https://usdebtclock.org/

Interest on debt is already 900 billion almost. 897 billion to be more exact

1935 social security act 1965 Medicare and Medicaid and expansion of Aid to Families with Dependent Children or AFDC

Medicare has surpassed Social Security as our biggest expense and it’s 30 years younger

Timothy is New Testament Exodus is Old Testament Deuteronomy is Old Testament

13 sats \ 3 replies \ @supratic OP 20 Jul

Medicare has surpassed Social Security as our biggest expense and it’s 30 years younger

Do you think there gonna be new one coming, surpassing the Oldies?

Timothy is New Testament Exodus is Old Testament Deuteronomy is Old Testament

I mis-formatted the third one from Leviticus ...

Why is important to differentiate between the Old and the New?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Bell_curve 20 Jul

I don’t understand your first question

Old Testament predates Christianity. The Catholic Church starts with the New Testament.

Only Christians believe in the New Testament while 3 religions accept the old yes

13 sats \ 1 reply \ @supratic OP 20 Jul

Thanks make more sense now. But aren't all just interpretations of the same source books? Leviticus 25:36-37 for example is part of the Book of Leviticus, which is the third book of the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) and the Christian Old Testament.

Regarding the first question, do you think there gonna be new ways/excuses to spend/create more money/debt?

I mean, in 1935 there was the need for social security, in 1965 Medicare and Medicaid etc... what will be next?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 20 Jul

I’m sure there will be new crises to justify more expensive programs

There was no need or demand for social security in 1935.

There was no need or demand for Medicare

There was no need or demand for Medicaid.

There was no need or demand for Obama care in 2009

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