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I'm wondering if there are any plans for an Umbrel self hosting app for Mutiny similar to that currently available on Start9? I guess I should direct this question to @TonyGiorgio and @benthecarman.

No, umbrel has a very unsecure platform. They would only allow us if we disabled many browser security features.

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Thanks for the quick response.

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Fucking FINALLY someone else saying this.

Personally, I wouldn’t want an Umbrel machine on my network.

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Last I heard, they are working to enable HTTPS

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Yes, last I heard 5 years ago.

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Yes, they are very slow. Maybe in 5 more years. "We are on the verge of releasing it".

https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps/pull/932#issuecomment-2134285086

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Damn heartbroken

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Why even on your network? What about it gives you this level of concern?

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MoneyPrinterGoBrrr is changed by any sane user after first login. 2FA is available, so no, stealing raspi won't be enough. But yes, a hacker guest with wifi password can sniff traffic with wireshark and maybe get the real password (I could not, must be hashed).

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Most people never change the default.

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Why blame Umbrel for this? If I remember correctly, Umbrel 1.1 forces you to change the password on first login.

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No, not all default passwords.

Can you elaborate on the browser security features?

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Thanks Tony. Been strongly considering setting up a Start9 node

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Good to know, thanks.

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