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6592 sats \ 28 comments \ @SimpleStacker 16 Feb tech

As a technical achievement, sure it's impressive. The amount of progress in just one year is amazing.

However, I feel that it's not ready for the limelight. There is still a distinct uncanny-valley feel to the videos, like you can tell that they are from AI and not real videos. This reminds me of the days of 3D animated movies that tried to make the people look realistic.... it just didn't feel right. Maybe we'll end up with AI videos used more for cartoons, where that sense of unrealism is a feature not a bug.

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638 sats \ 1 reply \ @nullcount 16 Feb

This was the state of the art AI video last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQr4Xklqzw8

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatsCats 17 Feb

Why does this feel like a lifetime ago.....

1010 sats \ 2 replies \ @0b1CoinObi 16 Feb

The quality of the videos that I've seen so far is off the charts. Yeah there a couple of the videos that do like an ai created them, but (see link below) the view from the train, the bird close up and the aerial above the beach is incredible and this is their starting point

14 sats \ 1 reply \ @0b1CoinObi 16 Feb freebie

If the close up shot of the bird appeared on a BBC nature documentary, I wouldn't have thought twice that it wasn't real and I know what to look for. The reflections in the railway carriage window of the people behind the girl filming out of the window, WTF, how good is that. It's just incredible that they've come so far in so little time.

If you're creating content online and need a short video clip of say an aerial style shot over a coastline, you won't need to either go out with your drone or go to shutterstock. It's rendering (pardon the pun) some industries redundant, if not redundant then this will hurt their profitability. People whose livelihoods rely on being out there in the real world will be used less and less.

It's scary where this is all leading, how will we know what's real or not?

https://m.stacker.news/16408

https://m.stacker.news/16409

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @UCantDoThatDotRugged 17 Feb

For real. Teach your children well.

367 sats \ 1 reply \ @jgbtc 17 Feb

The safety section on the website is not very encouraging. Lots of talk of working with lawmakers to prevent misinformation. It will be another too to control the narrative.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @zuspotirko 17 Feb

What are you talking about. Real cameras can easily make a signature about the hash of an image. And keep the secrret key in a secure enclave on the chip.

It's possible. It's like credit cards or cold wallets work too.

40 sats \ 3 replies \ @nullama 17 Feb

Video and photo evidence in court is gone.

Most of us lived the short few decades where you could capture a moment in time with a camera, and show it as proof that it happened.

If you were born too early, you didn't have a camera.

If you were born too late, you don't need a camera.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @RdioActiv 17 Feb

I disagree. We are still a long way out from artifact free AI video.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @UCantDoThatDotRugged 17 Feb

True, forensics make it totally possible to prove/disprove. But judges are idiots. Look how little they are willing to consider election evidence. You can walk into any courtroom today with a photo and not one lawyer out of 1000 will think twice about whether it's real.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nullama 17 Feb

Sure, the general case is still far away, but for some few cases you might be able to produce a convincing video.

130 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 16 Feb

Yes. But I'm impressed with many algorithms. I 100% agree with you about the uncanny valley feel. My take is as computers get better at imitating reality humans will get better and detecting this imitation.

I've noticed that there is a valley with AI as well. I don't have a large enough sample size but it seems to me that younger people who spend a lot of time looking at fake worlds as they game are impressed. It is much better than the worlds in games I've seen. The other group are older folks. Just as you mention, when I go back and watch old movies that had CG I can spot it, I suspect these young people's brains will learn to spot this stuff. That's not to mention using computers to detect fake video.

I've been asked many times by older folks if I'm concerned about "AI". I'm not. No more than I'm concerned about the Internet. It is an evolution not a revolution. That's my feeling right now at least. Sure there has been a jump in quality but there has also been a ton of hype and fear that comes from the desire to pump stock prices and government power.

43 sats \ 0 replies \ @orthwyrm 17 Feb

It's not about where we currently are. It's about the direction we are headed, how fast we are travelling, and under what acceleration.

Is the internet even going to be recognisable 10 years from now?

144 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr 16 Feb

yes, quite impressed.

sure, you can still see the errors and weird quirks in most clips but the flexibility of being able to command it to create any scene imaginable makes up for it… plus as you mention, this is just year one. it will improve from here.

820 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 16 Feb

yup we’re so early... Just compare these videos to the comical Will Smith eating spaghetti AI videos that were making the rounds fairly recently. 🤯

Even if full scene generation is a little shaky, I was particularly impressed by the examples where it can be used to modify the backgrounds of existing videos: https://x.com/martinnebelong/status/1758431263193543080?s=46&t=ecCEwyD_PMw3LhdEf9BMsQ

7 sats \ 0 replies \ @Atreus 17 Feb

One step closer to filming my Bitcoin-themed, cyberpunk dystopian film from my bedroom 🤷

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @UCantDoThatDotRugged 17 Feb

There's a dire need for technology that makes it easy to distinguish. Browser extensions that forensically examine photos and video on the fly based on open source algorithms that transparently document their methodology and findings, and compare themselves to other algorithms and findings of human analog forensics.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @UCantDoThatDotRugged 17 Feb

Leaks over the past few years were passed off as real news / content, I'm sure.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @beorange 17 Feb

If I am impressed? Yes, the demos seem to be quite an achievement. Lets wait to see how the real product performs in the hand of people.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DudeJLebowski 17 Feb

Look at the improvements made in ChatGPT since it was released to the public.

This thing will be huge, as will the need to watermark genuine content!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kingzing131 17 Feb

A few of them look extremely impressive.

It's a massive leap ahead and I have no doubt some of the uncanny feel can be worked around with some camera angle work

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @030a29f333 17 Feb

I'm scared more than impressed. We knew this was coming but I didn't realize it would be this quick. Can you trust your eyes in the internet anymore?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei 17 Feb

Yes I’m impressed

But I’m concerned that Gen-AI models will exacerbate the rich-poor divide. You have to pay US$20 per month in order to access ChatGPT-4. I’m from a relatively developed country and can afford doing so, but what about teachers in developing countries who hope to seek ChatGPT’s inputs to better their students’ learning? They will fall behind.

Seems like Sora is only available to certain content creators. They must have already built a sizeable following and boast a certain level of financial wealth. It seems to me a case of the rich gets richer

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @03479d0ee6 17 Feb freebie

Yes some of them I get that feeling of somethings off, not all, but it's the same with AI images, but, I am very impressed, the quality and realism is still mind-blowing for something that wasn't possible 1/2 years back. I don't think it will end up for cartoons, I think it will be used almost in everything you will see, movies with actors like today will be niche. Even today actors are no longer the main figures like they used to and they act against a green screen most of the time. Most shows and movies will be made by anons that then become famous for their work using AI. Netflix or YT will be mostly trending shows and movies by created by anons.