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Hey Devs and Hackers! It's time for your daily rendezvous at the Daily Devs Hangout. 🛠️🔗

Pull up your ergonomic chair in our virtual realm and share a slice of your day. From triumphs over complex code, head-scratching bugs that make you wonder why you started coding in the first place - we're all here for it. 🐞💻

Cracked a tough algorithm? Encountered a Bitcoin brain-teaser? Or perhaps you've got a piece of sage advice that could save a fellow dev's sanity? This is the place to spill.

Random realization I just came to:

No-coder is a psyop.
From now on I call them pre-coders 🫡

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When did it click for people to feel comfortable calling themselves a “dev” instead of a “non dev”?

Shipping 1st product, avoiding StackOverflow for 24 hours, receiving first job or client work or just a conscious decision?

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Probably after shipping my first self-made product. I hadn't graduated from undergrad when it first launched, but I still felt like I could "do it."

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Mhh, good question. Maybe when I started to code for fun.

But when you start getting paid for coding, that's probably a pretty good sign you can call yourself a "dev" now.

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Whats up hackers/slackers! I'm sick this week but still getting a little work done

I've been building a zap telegram bot using NWC this week and last. Just noticed today that telegram extended a lot of the bot functionality in their latest update (telegram bots can be kinda limited compared to discord/slack/etc) so now bots can detect and act on "reactions" (emoji's) on messages.
https://core.telegram.org/bots/api-changelog#december-29-2023

For me this means I can do zaps with ⚡ reactions on messages now so thats p cool!

Anyone here running a telegram bot?

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Anyone here running a telegram bot?

Here! I run a TG bot to put the SN RSS feed into a TG channel.

I also created a GPT2TG bot for fun once but OpenAI doesn't really like running bots. I had to update my cookie too often so I lost interest in running the bot. I just wanted to use ChatGPT from TG, lol

But it was a fun project for a day. It's also written in bash because I didn't anticipate how much work it would be. I initially thought I could do it in a few lines of bash, lol

That's probably the ugliest bash code I have ever written but it works - or at least it used to work, it's been 4 months already :)

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Nice! I had written a chatGPT discord bot in the plebdevs discord about a year ago but it was early on with their API and it was basically the same thing as you too much to maintain. I was also thinking about writing a simple bot to grab posts from ~devs to the plebdevs discord

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I was also thinking about writing a simple bot to grab posts from ~devs to the plebdevs discord

👀 Do it!

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To all ~devs too, which habits and behaviours have led you to accelerating your coding competence and knowledge the most?

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At first for me it was making the public commitment to my friends and family that I was gonna become a programmer (would have been embarrassing not to after I told everyone!)

Next it was making the commitment to myself to try and push code to github every day. Something about that habit in particular was powerful for me because I felt that I was building up some proof-of-work and compounding my skills / work in public

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I guess it all comes down to problem-solving, especially your own problem, nothing drives you the best than this.

why would a non dev answering this, feel free to ignore:)

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Started this React Course https://courses.joshwcomeau.com/joy-of-react this year. Planning to also contribute to repos to make it stick.

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How often do you use chatgpt for programming? Some people at my work seem to shun it but I find it incredibly useful as long as youre not over reliant on it

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I use it VERY often but only to help me have a faster feedback loop. I dont want it to think for me, I'll have it find ideas for me, or suggest them to me, but outside of that it just genenrates boilerplate code that I be sure to read, understand, and often refactor a bit.

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Same , it's a great sidekick

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Am I the only one who coding in C every day?
I'm getting out of date :)

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no :)

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This is cool. I am not a dev but I find this intriguing.

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intro to sql class in the business school at UT Austin 🫡

my mom taught me html as a kid, and i picked up CSS at a job in college

“none of those are programming languages”: yeah i got made fun of endlessly by “real” programmers in college a lot

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one place i def did not start it was high school. i did a “photography” class as my computer credit. it counted because we had some assignments that required you to use photoshop 😂

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wow, it seems you have quite a cool mum 👀

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For me shitty python course on udemy that I finished 10% of lol I wanted to write a "trading bot" 🤮

I gave up after that for a little while and didn't start making real progress again until I started with HTML/CSS then worked my way up to JavaScript

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for me, I know how to play around with simple WP sites and Nocode tools, learnt them because I constantly need to fix small things, and I hate to need to keep asking others to help 😂

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I have a homie whose a newer web developer and also knows some no code tools (I think framer is the one he mostly uses) and his websites always look way better than mine haha

I think no-code makes sense for a lot of marketing / ecommerce sites and you can definitely make a living as a contractor building them for people

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i think one of the biggest struggles for anyone building stuff (not developing for fun) is to resist writing code where a nocode tool would do a better/sufficient job

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I had to pick a orchid subject in high school and "computer science" sounded interesting - or everything else sounded less interesting.

That was the second year in which this subject was available. The year ended up with me teaching the teacher because he didn't get some things I was doing with Java. It was possibly dumb things but it worked.

Was a fun teacher most of the times but I think he had some kind of ego problem.

I got an A- because I spent the night before optimizing something and didn't test everything so something did indeed not work when he graded the program - a very simple room booking system. Fun times :)

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"computer science"

it sounds super boring to me 🙉 how come they can name something so interesting into something so boring.!

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How would you name it?

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hacking 👀 or anything but computer science

If my guess is correct, it started with "Hello World"

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Yeah except for me I spelled it “hello wrold”

I knew being a dev was gonna be rough after botching my first ever line of code 🙃

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Took a Fortran course in college and got a co-op job writing graphics software.

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Based! What text editor do you use? Also did you happen to learn any Forth in college?

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I used punched cards. Output was a plotter across town (microwave roof to roof)

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Just remembered, my company's local cardreader was linked to the mainframe across town and the plotter was connected to the mainframe. It was a Control Data Corporation datacenter. I was in downtown Houston and the CDC machine was west of downtown I think.

Watched Kody Low on the Guy Swan podcast talk about his coding journey, seemed cool so I thought I'd give it a shot. Ran into a bunch of free resources and got some good support from the community. Looking forward to finishing the plebdev/nostrdev material, and being more active with replit, nix os, and github.

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Kody is a legend! He helped me a lot when I was going through Base58

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Programming calculators not yet realizing it was "programming."

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