Been noticing the proliferation of conservative narrative among the bitcoin community, and I find it really annoying.
Bitcoin does not care who you are, so why some ppl inside the community are expanding this intolerant narrative? Bitcoin is about freedom, in all it's forms, and respect ppls choices in life.
It's not nice at all to see conservative narrative disguised as libertarian
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Because conservatives got kicked off Visa, Twitter, and Chase bank, GoFundMe etc etc. Bitcoin is an alternative to the system, so you don't generally think about it if the system is working for you.
Rest assured if convervatives were the incumbant, they'd say some shit about national security, of how the dollar is needed to support the success of the country or whatever, as Trump in fact did actually, but this is just the version of reality we live in.
I'm not from the states, and been around Bitcoin community enough time to assure this is a new phenomena that maybe started after Trump. I'm as far from the establishment as I can, and find in Bitcoin a good way to achieve that. I don't identify to any political party, cause I think the system is broke, nevermind politics, and respect anyones choices, as long as they don't try to affect my freedom
Trump is not a conservative.
Been noticing the proliferation of people sharing their politics on Stacker News...
wouldn't mind if they didn't.
you are right, my mistake, mi first and last
i really prefer the bitcoin related talks, so i will not engage in any political related stuff in the future so i don't make people uncomfortable
I agree with that. Many Liberal/Liberterian movements get submarined by conservatives over time. The common denominator being against leftist ideas.
It will happen to r/neoliberal and Bitcoin community if people don't fight for being openminded
I really like bitcoin but I confess I find conservatives, liberals and increasingly libertarians irritating 😂
can't agree more :D
What's irritating about them?
politics
fair enough :D
Bitcoin is apolitical. It's properties are appealing to people across the political spectrum. Only rent seeking central planners and the ignorant don't like it.
so true
Bitcoin is essentially political. It's written in the genesis transaction.
indeed, politically anti establishment, an alternative for personal sovereignty.
Can you give an example?
The discussion around Kraken CEO is the most notorious example at the moment, but not the only one
What are you refering to? Couldn't find anything about Kraken.
I'm unclear on your definitions for conservative and libertarian. I believe you are giving republican v.s. democrat ire more credibility than any other tribal feud is due. Your second link appears to conflate equality with freedom and anarchy, while these might be considered opposites. It also conflates criticism and differing views with oppression, which is to deny freedom of expression. Freedom of expression necessitates freedom to offend and hurl insults. It seems nobody remembers that to spew insults and ignorance defiles the person expressing hatred and the recipient might reconsider internalizing this sort of person's feelings
I think people can be Lgbtq, Christians and Bitcoiners. None of these things contradict each other in any way. And duck people who want to gatekeep any of these terms.
dont forget this man operates and profits from a shitcoin casino
I already closed my Coinbase account a few days ago. What's another centralized exchange? Yeah, as soon as I read some quotes from the NYT piece about what he had to say about women and racism, I was like, "Nope". Contacted customer support about an hour ago to delete my account.
Interesting people still believe hit pieces by the toilet papers of record
I'm not familiar, please elaborate
Tolerance. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
maybe you are right, but referring to a trans person as castrati does not sound at least respectful for the choice of that person at all
somebody somewhere says something stupid online (apparently), so hey let's use it to smear a huge group of people I don't like
grow up
Bitcoin is one of the most financially conservative ideas to ever exist. I think that while Bitcoin itself is apolitical, the monetary policy is an appealing thing to anyone who is financially conservative. It just so happens the cohort of financial conservatism and social conservatism tend to be the same, which makes sense.
One of the beautiful things about Bitcoin is that it exposes the government and politics for what they are, and the deeper you dive the more you become fed up with both leanings.
The worst part is all the finger pointing where either side just kind of gives up because "the other side" is preventing them. Then you see stark split the way politicians vote on issues where you can see people on the left vote one way, people on the right another. Not because anyone believes in their stance on the issue itself but because everyone would rather do that than vote on something that might be perceived as "helping" the other side. We aren't even voting on issues we believe in, we're picking and cheering our teams like its a football game.
The icing on the cake is we insist on being childish and name calling as mainstream political discourse. We can't even call our presidents by their name any more. Its either Sleepy Joe this or Agent Orange that. I cannot take any of this political discourse serious when we're all acting like toddlers, and everyone hopes we'll somehow fix this? Everyone has lost their god damn minds.
My advice is just ignore social media entirely. For Bitcoin, most of the conversation takes place on Twitter but you're just better off finding people you want to follow, logging out, and bookmarking their profile to view whenever you feel like. It is a tremendous help in tuning out the noise. If you want to have a conversation with someone with contrasting views to yours, take it offline and do it in person. People are much more reasonable as long as everyone stays level headed. Have conversations, NOT debates. The internet strongly incentivizes debates and that sometimes leaks over into the real world. This is an important rule to remember. Leave the debates to these crusty ass pandering politicians who need votes from whatever audience still believes they give a flying fuck about them.
If someone you follow says some cringe shit that you don't like, you can unfollow them and get your information from someone else. It does not make you fragile or a snowflake or intolerant or whatever. Anyone saying this has made politics their entire identity because they are bankrupt on personality. You won't really miss out on any important or critical info but you will filter out completely unnecessary political noise. If anyone has a problem with how you prefer to navigate the internet and social media, they can suck the whole of your dick and fuck right off.
Really appreciate your comment, i agree in all you say and make me feel a bit embarrase cause it's true, to just pay attention or give relevance to anything said in social media is act like a toddler.
The part I appreciate more is when you say Bitcoin is one of the most conservative ideas, and triggered interesting thoughts.
Again thanks for taking the time to comment and sharing your point of view.
Yeah its very interesting, and is maybe why you see more of a conservative leaning when it comes to Bitcoin. The system itself can be apolitical but the ideas of the system and what they stand for may not be. It is up to the individual to agree or disagree with that part and understand the demographic those types of things will target and attract.
For clarity I wasn't trying to imply you're a toddler, just that in general I have been in Bitcoin so long this is kind of the revelation I have had about the political discourse that takes place on the internet. I think social media encourages it because its the easiest low effort way to drum up engagement, so maybe to no fault of any particular individual.
Who is being intolerant here?
you mean here in SN? I haven't find anything intolerant here, here is everything about Bitcoin related stuff, like it should be.
yet
i will keep staking sats and doing my thing, whatever happens with the community, just will kill my Nym once again and go back to be an annon as usual
One of my favorite parts of Bitcoin is the wide range of political beliefs and opinions us users hold.
Getting perspectives from all sides.
Never forget. Bitcoin is for enemies.
You spoke the true mate, thanks for your comment, nice to see some perspective
Related: #35691
Bitcoin is an apolitical messaging protocol. Thus, it's a perfect facilitator of money for those who understand that they own themselves -- and who respect the rights of every other individual to do the same.
I just got off the phone with Bitcoin and it told me it couldn't care less about your political affiliation.
Bitcoin is for everyone, even your enemies
There is a creek between a conservative and a libertarian but an ocean between a libertarian and an anarcho-capitalist