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my only concern is the intelligence/us army/military contractors background the founders have and key staff have. check out their linkedin profiles:
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Also backed by Strategic Cyber Ventures, which names among its exec team and board of directors for its SPAC former Director of National Intelligence (and Senator/Rep from IN) Dan Coats:
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What's wrong with the US military? They invented the internet. They invented duct tape. Most nuclear energy advancements started in the US military. Satellite navigation. Tang, lol. etc etc. The US military invests in research for new technologies that are designed to be competitive against equally large anti-competitive forces (Russia, North Korea, China). Individuals in their own jurisdiction are responsible for keeping them accountable, and no one is more critical of America than Americans.
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thanks for sharing. this is a great intel..!
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I'm very interested, it seems like a cool concept, but i won't be excited until i see it working and know what their business model is.
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agree. i want to use it as well if everything works as the demo on stage..!
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Snake oil.
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that sums it up for me...!
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I don't believe it's a good use of LN; personally fall into the LN as primarily a liquidity network for payments camp.
As others have said, trying to do too much at once, and then the hype-y marketing leads me to believe that the actual product experience will be quite drastically different from the demo (I can't see how we're going to be able to stream video in good quality based on the latency from tor connections to nodes in wallet apps).
But let's see -- like most folks, I want a product like this to exist, so good that they're taking it on.
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I have yet to be sold on the idea of using the lightning network to transfer anything but bitcoin liquidity. We have DHT, Tor, STUN, and many other methods for facilitating peer to peer.
Trying to facilitate data over lightning seems like an unnecessary hack, similar to "everything can run on the block chain." I'm open to being proven wrong, though.
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Optimistic that there is innovation in the bundling.
Skeptical about the trade-offs necessary for a sustainable business model.
Either way, it's good for bitcoin.
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Experiments are good.. but hype and scam are bad... for bitcoin.
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It looks cool, but I don't understand yet how it works from a network and infrastructure perspective, do I need to run it on my LN node, which I'd prefer to keep just for bitcoin or have a secondary device for it, and what are the requirements and costs involved.
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One thing I understand is that they send 1 sat through key_send back and forth to keep a tunnel open. Is the lightning network even ready to support sending billions of 1 sat across??
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Trying to do too many things at once
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Don't know what to expect. Love the idea of integrating lightning and move to a web where you pay for content instead of being the product, but don't if they are building that.
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I'd love to see it being what they promise but I'm pretty certain it's an awful crew with skewed incentives.
I'll give it a wide berth.
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Hard to have an opinion on something you haven’t used. It’s awesome if they provide what they aim to
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Development is taking some time. I’m curious when they will release.
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Is it available for anyone to try today?
I know they made an announcement this week, but I don't see any links on their site to actually try the browser.
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Yes. still in closed beta. FB and Google came into existence by not announcing it in a conference.. but by making it work for small number of users.
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Ah I see, do you know when they expect to roll it out more broadly?
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At the conf demo they mentioned in the coming weeks.
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awesome, thanks!
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I'm very interested and expecting to build on top of it pending what the UX/centralized dependencies are. We still need decentralized storage and serverless paid with lightning but p2p + lightning dns + ion/DiD + self hosted with fallback web2 is a solid foundation.
I'm personally not interested unless they're FOSS. Their EULA is also laughable, but this has been discussed before.