Has anyone given thought to the concept of an autonomous script/bot or AI that keeps itself running without human intervention. It would pay it's own hosting bills with Bitcoin that it earned by offering a service to other bots or to humans. Is anyone on SN working on this type of thing? I find the idea fascinating.
1012 sats \ 1 reply \ @Majjin 16 Feb 2023
I don't remember where I heard it, but I remember an interesting concept of a "ghost Uber service".
Imagine a future where Bitcoin is much more widely accepted and driverless cars are a thing. A well off guy buys a fleet of these cars and automates everything. They receive payment over Lightning to drive you anywhere in the city. They automatically service themselves by driving into a mechanic and paying them. They automatically clean themselves by going to car washes and interior cleaning services and paying them too. They replace the old vehicles with new ones using the profit. It automatically files taxes. You get the idea.
One day, the rich guy dies alone in his condo or house. He's a socially isolated fellow, so no one notices for a long time. All the while the Uber service he owned is automatically running itself. Eventually someone finds the dude's body a year or two later. Now the city has a conundrum. Do they let this ghost service continue? Who technically owns the business?
Really interesting stuff
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SantaNotSanta OP 16 Feb 2023
yeah fascinating. will the future contain sentient AIs that are stacking sats in private gold piles and allocating them how they see fit? they could be completely out of the reach of any regulation or control, unless the underlying hardware that's running their code is compromised.
I'm wondering about the nearer term too, simple services online that are self sustaining and pay for their own hosting, they could even fix their own bugs with bug bountys paid to devs that fix them. and they could distribute any revenue they earn to their founders/creators
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898 sats \ 2 replies \ @fanis 16 Feb 2023
If I remember correctly Nicholas Gregory mentioned this on @kr's show a few days ago. Didn't save the timecode tho.
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694 sats \ 1 reply \ @SantaNotSanta OP 16 Feb 2023
excellent thanks, will give that a listen
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30 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr 16 Feb 2023
yes, here is the relevant timestamp about AI:
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @02777e5262 16 Feb 2023
I don’t recall the author or source, but pre-lighting, a similar idea was discussed wherein autonomous agents would lease hosting space for themselves by offering coding or other services. They take payment in bitcoin, can move about to other servers and/or replicate, and could modify their own code. With lightning and current AI, I think this is totally doable today.
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @note_bene 16 Feb 2023
It's a good idea, the tricky part is hosting your lightning node's secret key on "non-custodial" vm's on say AWS, GCP, etc. As Luke Dash Jr discovered when he got usb rootkit'd : not your server farm, not your sats.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SantaNotSanta OP 16 Feb 2023
a valuable insight, thank you for sharing that
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41 sats \ 2 replies \ @kristapsk 16 Feb 2023
IIRC Andreas Antonopoulos talked about self driving taxis that own themselves and then go to also service where they are repaired by robots, all based on Bitcoin payments years ago.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SantaNotSanta OP 16 Feb 2023
yeah so true, now that you mention it I also remember him talking about that in 2016, if not earlier iirc
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @dergigi 16 Feb 2023
Correct.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @PlebeiusG 17 Feb 2023
I was thinking of a Cyber Truck doing this one day. Picking up people, accepting lightning payments, and using that money to run itself thru the car wash, charge up, etc. We could have streets full of autonomous vehicle that live out their existence serving humans and taking care of themselves.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @theshanergy 16 Feb 2023
In the future, a DAO (decentralized autonomous organization) will run a distributed NLP (Natural Language Processing) model that provides services to create a thriving society. The DAO will be entirely opt-in, and members will pay a service fee to the network to access protection, healthcare, and other beneficial services. The governance of the DAO will be decided by the NLP model influenced by the free market actions of its members.
The NLP model will use this mechanism of free market decision making internally by offering multiple competing services, which members can vote on through funding or staking. This will allow the DAO to constantly hone in on the optimal suite of services. Members will have a say in the decision-making process, and the DAO will allocate resources and services based on the results of the NLP model's data analysis.
The free-market approach will address the potential issue of governance, as members will have the power to create and participate in the DAO's decision-making process. If the DAO does not act in their best interest, they can fork the DAO and subscribe to a new model that better suits their needs. The NLP model's use of competing services will ensure that the DAO is always striving to provide the best services to its members.
The NLP model's potential for error will also be addressed through the use of competing services and DAOs. If a particular service is consistently found to be ineffective, the NLP model will adjust its decision-making to allocate resources elsewhere, resulting in a more efficient and effective system.
Overall, the DAO will offer a free-market alternative to traditional governments, providing services to create a thriving society through a decentralized and opt-in system. The governance and decision-making process will be entirely in the hands of its members, ensuring that the DAO operates in their best interest. The NLP model's use of competing services will result in a constantly evolving and improving system, providing optimal services to its members.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @theshanergy 16 Feb 2023
(Above written by ChatGPT)
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @melvincarvalho 16 Feb 2023
yes, run over nostr with batteries to top up the energy
already working in multiple forms
there will be many more
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SantaNotSanta OP 16 Feb 2023
you're working on this?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @01xCc 16 Feb 2023
ты хочешь передать биткоин в руки ИИ??? удачи... но будь аккуратнее...
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