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I do not know how. I don't know how we'll get there. But I want you there.
how i'm imagining our MVP of DMs will work
I think that
encrypt laterwill cause you problems with:Also note that I'd love to have a little setting to switch it off completely until that future encryption-enabled version, to reduce the temptation of misuse by people, including myself, that want to use DM but then inadvertently doxx themselves in the most awful ways thinkable without having any cryptographic backstop.
I agree. This is the reason I've given for why we don't have DMs yet and I was capitulating.
I'm probably overestimating how hard it'd be to build a e2ee PoC.
Assuming you're not going to build your own cryptography, it's easy to overestimate. Assuming you plan to roll your own, probably you're properly cautious.
MLS in a browser. How hard can it be? lol
I found someone giving it a shot already at least: https://github.com/LukaJCB/ts-mls
It's even listed on the "official" MLS implementations page, great process on the PR
/s, and the author of that ts lib opened a pull request for it despite writing in the readme:Make of that what you will. If I personally were to integrate a standard and there would be no audited, non-solo developed libs, I'd probably write and have audited my own lib. So in either case we're kind of back to "you're right to fear it", sorry, lol.
However: that implementation still isn't the hardest problem. The hardest problem, even if you write a ts mls lib yourself, is still key management.
I'd hope we can reuse the encrypted "vault" that we use for syncing send wallet creds, but there's a lot more state in these protocols and having one key to retrieve it all may defeat their purpose.
Yeah I thought about that. I think that the distinction is that all the data in the vault can be reset and reconstructed but messages cannot.
I made a GH proposal long time ago: add hidden comments, revealed only with a payment.
You and Car have the same problem: you've been on SN so long and given me so many ideas that I don't have enough time to implement them all!
I might add: consider making the UI for DMs unthreaded. Under a threaded UI, long chains of replies are hard to read because of the max depth. This makes sense in a free-for-all discussion, but not so much for a 2-person text chain.
I'm fairly opinionated on that point. I think they should be threaded. I've been stewing on my detest of bolt-on DM systems for years.
If our threads aren't good enough, they should be made better - improving both DMs and threads alike. That assumes the deficit isn't fundamental to DMs being ordered as trees though. But, the average DM UI are lists of messages and lists are trees with only a trunk/branch so we can probably just improve how we display trees in certain situations and get the best of both worlds.
Yeah, makes sense to keep them threaded under the hood. I think it's more of a display hack for detecting what kind of message tree you're in (maybe some node count / max path thing).
My main point is that for a long chain of direct replies, some of the UI features of threading, like indented blocks and max depth, may be UX-reducing
Yep, we just already need that display hack for comment threads too.
Bounty ongoing for a SATSCARD handout #1334601
guys look at this Epstein document https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%203/EFTA00005586.pdf
informative.
seriously, everyone shoudl check it out. mind blowing new information
I nearly blacked out reading through it
"For Christmas I'm gonna mammogram the kids sweatshirts"
Thing I heard while shopping today.
That seems quite inappropriate.
Yeah... but I'm pretty sure she meant embroider
meetup christmas party last evening was a blast! Nostr link
magical evening at a magical winery 🍷⚡️
purchase California wine with sats, I sampled the Tempranillo and GSM blend and can recommend 👍
Delicious ~food_and_drinks beautifully served. is that @oshigood inside the dates?
Yes! 🙌
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2joUzINtiJvmmT6e2VULVqWye5WCf-XJQHrE3Ihd2wojB9-yHKyKMnfHr&s=10
Engaging with stacker news and hope to stack some sats..... Reading, writing and posting
whelp that's the last time I try to deploy during a scaling event
Saw some odd editor behavior on android PWA, will try to repro and file you an issue later today or tomorrow.
Could be because what was a
textareabefore is nowcontenteditable=true. I'll check for weirdness on my devices.Makes sense because it went away after reboot - caching issue?
I wouldn't be surprised but you have the new UI in your video which shouldn't contain stale references unless there's some bug upstream in our bundler or downstream in the browser cache.
I'll continue to be skeptical of
contenteditable=truejust to be safe.It came back. I'll try to figure out what triggers it in the am.
Based on what sox was saying, it sounds like the browser wants to delete whole words and we are doing something that prevents that. We also deployed some fixes an hour ago, so it could still be some cache thing.
It seems like it's a different bug though. Android shouldn't have this native behavior of deleting whole words, instead the video shows that @optimism can delete (really fast) but there's something, at some point, that reverts the action.
This needs more digging!
Welp... I did something truly awful now because
reboot -> open sn PWAtriggeredkernel panicfrom the Chrome (Vanadium) GPU thread.Isn't it funny how discovering one bug can lead to the discovery of another? I guess I'll have to dedicate more time to this haha.
That would be amazing, thank you.
It went away after a phone reboot, so may just be a caching issue... will build a full github issue if it comes back. Here's the screencap:
This was actually really helpful, it’s something I can reproduce myself on iOS (although not like this).
iOS tries to delete whole words when holding the backspace button, this doesn’t work very well outside of a
textarea. Will see how to make it consistent.More evidence that iOS UX > Android UX
<saddest face emoji>Glad I realized I should boot between to exclude any secret system browser caches. Caching issues cross-upgrade are always forgivable.
Oh I found the format, now is supporting the direct link to the media file Like this one:
https: //i.postimg.cc/rmcJ77yF/BTC-because_fuck_banks.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/rmcJ77yF/BTC-because_fuck_banks.jpg
Now the question is, how the old posts will be affected?
Fixed! https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news/pull/2690
Thank you!
Seems that attaching images from external cdn is broken. Can't insert msrkdown links from postimg.cc
why are @nym and ~territory in bold now?
I did it during early development to distinguish mentions from links, but I agree it's not a great look. reverted
I didn't do it!
hahaha I see the new changes in SN...
Yes, like, for starters this GIF should have a transparent background lol
I wanted to make a point... but I'm just going to let this sit here so that I can go back to coding.
coding is the anwser
The Bitcoin Art Magazine Podcast Ep. 8 w/ @asanoha & Kontext is now also available via The Kontext Experience podcast feed 🎧
We talk about SATOSH.EE ( #784376 ), the Bitcoin Wall Calendar ( #1290747 ), a little bit about my philosophical book ( #1074789 ), and the parallels between Bitcoin and Stoicism.
Give it a listen: Fountain, Wavlake or other platforms
People in 2012 - doomsday is coming and we all gonna die People in 2025 - QC is coming and we all gonna lose our corn And these are the people worried about QC and all other bullshit things they see on TV and media... and gaslighted by influencers and snake oil sellers.
But they never worried about real things that threaten their live every fucking day: governments and fiat. And they still believe in them. I have a message to all of you worried about QC: sell now all your corn !
What's QC?
quantum bullshit computing
¡Merry Christmas! 🎄
It’s crazy my old content on medium still getting reads
You got a link, encase I want some light reading?
https://boogs.medium.com/tbh-book-review-principles-of-economics-93d95c1a72be
Not sure how to link to my profile haha
Merry Stacking XmasMerry Stacking Xmas
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2026 BITCOIN WALL CALENDAR ARTIST SPOTLIGHT: PictureRoom SN profile: @PictureRoom
He submitted 3 works into the competition, 2 of which were voted into the calendar.
Read the full spotlight note on nostr Or check out the post here on SN for info about the calendar: #1290747
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