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Why does nobody believe the theft of 215 bitcoins from Luke Dashjr?observatorioblockchain.com/ciberseguridad/por-que-nadie-se-cree-el-robo-de-215-bitcoins-a-luke-dashjr/

538 sats \ 34 comments \ @m0wer 18h bitcoin

Luke Dashjr, one of Bitcoin's leading developers, has been making headlines lately after having 215 bitcoins stolen. Dashjr explained that a hacker gained access to his server, his Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) system, his wallet, and his bitcoins. It's unbelievable that one of the people who has contributed the most to the cybersecurity of the Bitcoin protocol could have been hacked so easily and lost such a large sum of money.

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53 sats \ 19 replies \ @optimism 17h

nobody + 1. I actually believe that this happened.

110 sats \ 11 replies \ @DarthCoin 17h

If that really happened, Luke is just dumb.

115 sats \ 6 replies \ @optimism 16h

Can't judge, I lost coins dumber.

127 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 15h

But 215? I think it's pretty fair to judge him, and afaik he still uses the same potentially compromised server to distribute Knots binaries.

239 sats \ 4 replies \ @optimism 15h

Less but still a shitton.

Edit: making mistakes in custody solutions has been common and isn't a reason I'd pass judgment for. Anyone can make a mistake.

I think its more useful to judge someone by their solutions. In which case I think Luke is often wrong.

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 15h

Wanna share the story so I can judge you in higher resolution after I made sure this doesn't happen to me? haha

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 15h

No. The story is out there under my real name and I don't want to doxx myself haha.

But feel free to judge me. I simply was lazy on my own stack.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 14h

Ahh ok, I understand, no worries! (You probably considered if just mentioning this is too much.)

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @adlai 8h

You have family, friends, kids, etc, right?

Anyone ever moved anything? Ever?

Nobody has enough eyes to sleep well at night. Some people make compromises, some people compromise, and some people have really complicated social relationships managed totally wrong... now how you gonna explain this to an adult, who has habits and beliefs and stuff?¹

I'm honestly not ridiculing Luke over this; if you read around a bit, you'll see that lots of people have, in retrospect, performed judgement errors that could be ridiculed as "dumb" in light of the cold emotionless lens of financial loss.

Life il too long to carry an extra kilogram of key material like it's your SERE totem.

"and stuff" is the problem; the most common cope is obfuscation / "security by obscurity", aka "why would anyone steal backups of my kid's homework, we've gotta throw that out next spring cleaning!" ... then you lose track of who saw what go where when why, and how. ↩

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 8h

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @adlai 8h

m.SN/117598

them again?

BTW I forgot how much you love footnotes and added one just for you!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 8h

100 sats \ 6 replies \ @adlai 8h

How long did you persist in your disbelief before advancing to the recognition of threat heterogeneity?

107 sats \ 5 replies \ @optimism 8h

I don't think I disbelieved it at all? In general I accept things like "okay, but". Calling people liars without evidence that they are is kind of lame, even if you keep it to yourself; then the guy in the mirror is lame.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @adlai 8h

Calling people liars without evidence that they are is kind of lame, [...]

how does RemindMe work round these parts?

I should probably owe this place book reviews rather than more of my own prose, until instructed otherwise by the folks who aren't reflexively criticising over fashions of stylometry rather than content.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 8h

stylometry

I didn't know this word.

Been slinging words for a long time, and I'm surprised I didn't know this one. Thanks for using it!

102 sats \ 0 replies \ @adlai 7h

[....] surprised I didn't know stylometry. Thanks for using it!

words worth more than any sort of credit, especially now that Sankey has gotten busy lapping my simpler friends, Euler, Venn, and Pie...

forget about the Ides of March; the last week of August was much more interesting this year... if my next reader doesn't already remember my first conversation with Scoresby, then please don't forget to read the rest of the Saloon before zapping your stacks off or whatever you do with all the time.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 8h

fuck fashion?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @adlai 7h

context is king; they rarely have sharp style, living and dying to the tune of muted tolling.

50 sats \ 5 replies \ @OT 18h

Edit: link not working for me.

Luke is different, but I highly doubt he would call for help from the FBI if he had made it up. They are not dumb and they likely took all his devices and grilled him for days. Not many would pit themselves through this situation and even fewer would think they could fool them too.

32 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 18h

Both scenarios are highly susceptible and dumb.

Scenario A: he really lost those BTC due to a hack. Is really dumb to keep such an amount of BTC in an online computer, no matter how many security protections you took. Is not necessary, even if you use them for testing / developing stuff. You can use testnet or any other fake network for that.

Scenario B: he fake the whole thing as "I lost my BTC in a hack".... Is also dumb to fake such thing in public. And for what? There are many ways to hide your stash, but going public with a fake story is dumb.

Let's not forget that after that "hack" he received more BTC from donations. I could be also a maneuver for getting them.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @krispy_donkey 14h

Agree, it makes no sense. In filthy fiat that is worth $21 million USD. Nevermind some hacker infiltrating his home network, what exactly was his plan for stopping a wrench attack? Once my modest holdings reached a certain size I racked my brain trying to figure out a way to store my seed phrase so securely that if anyone nasty ever came to visit I literally would not be a able to give them what they wanted. It took a while but I finally came up with a system I am happy with, or rather I could not find a better solution.

I find it so hard to believe that someone so high profile as Luke with such significant holdings was not thinking along similar lines.

It’s possible that he grew up in comfortable settings and his mind and thoughts never really went in that direction, I don’t know. It’s also possible he was so confident in his own technical abilities that he thought his system was unhackable. So, he’s either lying or very naive. In both cases, whatever else he says in the future I will take with an extremely large grain of salt, for he’s either dishonest or an extremely smart idiot.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @adlai 8h

plan for stopping a wrench attack?

"half" the "security" industry is about "response", which boils down to recovery, rather than prevention.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @m0wer OP 18h

Here you have an alternative, but in Spanish: https://web.archive.org/web/20241107160737/https://observatorioblockchain.com/ciberseguridad/por-que-nadie-se-cree-el-robo-de-215-bitcoins-a-luke-dashjr/

The article is interesting because it covers many other things. Many other episodes that help you know him better I guess.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 18h

Is kind of hit piece...

23 sats \ 6 replies \ @DarthCoin 18h

Fun fact: if you wear a mask like this for long time, it affect your brain from lack of oxygen... and all for nothing.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @SHA256man 16h

how good of a mask are u gonna get, Darth? do u have some sort of protection against aluminum nano-particles? space suits... they are coming... Elon Musk will save us all, lol; also robots, gotta have em;

109 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 16h

The "darth mask" is just for fun and smoke...

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @SHA256man 16h

i am not too sure about that:

reminiscing good old times on Simply Bitcoin telegram

life was fun and seemed so simple

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 16h

There's an important reason why I left that group...

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @SHA256man 16h

gotta pick battles wisely; there are only so many mitochondria in the body working only so fast, and it's a zero-sum game;

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @realBitcoinDog 12h

The simply Bitcoin telegram is just for pinning links to the latest video now

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kilianbuhn 14h

because "boating accident" is a fundamental part of Bitcoin culture.

On the other hand: He's both a weirdo and stupid. So maybe it actually did happen. That would be so funny 😂

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