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1986 sats \ 14 comments \ @kepford 5 Nov Politics_And_Law

“In a consumer society, producing even a small part of your own food is the most subversive act you can perform.”

“In a world of collapse and uncertainty, growing your own food and turning your waste into fertility is one of the most radical acts possible.”

~ David Holmgren

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48 sats \ 8 replies \ @SimpleStacker 5 Nov

Do you do that? I think it's easier said than done, especially in a way that's actually self sustaining.

198 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 5 Nov

Self sustaining is something else than growing your own food (parts). Is really hard to have everything grown by yourself. At some point you have to do some exchanges with a neighbor or other farm because is almost impossible to have everything in your place.

But growing some vegetables, just as a buffer zone to not depend 100% of an external source, it doesn't cost too much effort, even in an urban area.

131 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford OP 5 Nov

And you aren't gonna have success if you wait to learn until times are tough. Better to learn when you don't HAVE to grow your own food. Building the skill is the thing I overlooked in my younger years.

Same goes for operating radios (HAM). Using bitoin is another example. I used to just HODL. But you need to USE the tools. I don't HAVE to use bitcoin now but I do because when the shit hits the fan that's a terrible time to learn.

42 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 5 Nov

Yep, why do you think I started to build that cabin in the woods? To learn... growing food is coming soon too, once the house is finished.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @kepford OP 5 Nov

I got that immediately. Few people seem to actually act on what they claim to fear. If I had the kind of fear I hear from many left-wing people I would act very different than they do.

We are far from helpless. We have learned helplessness. That's what the state does.

31 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford OP 5 Nov

I have had a garden for years. Some years it is bigger than others.

I treat it like this.

I grow things I love to eat.
I grow things because they are better than what I can buy
I grow things because it brings me joy
I grow things because I want to know how to do it in case I every HAVE to do it.

The time to learn something is not when you need to do it. Its before that. I'm no expert but I try to be a life long learner. It is easy to make excuses. I did it for year. My father had a garden when I was a kid. He's in his 80s and still does it.

I'm not self sustaining but I do mulch, share the production, and garden in a regenerative way without pesticides and commercial fertilizers. We get wood chips from tree trimmers and use it as mulch. But, there are many that do much more than I do.

I've learned a lot about gardening to the point my dad calls me for tips. I have to give a LOT of credit to my wife who always wanted to have a garden and eventually I wised up.

I started listening to Jack Spirko's Survival Podcast and I have learned mountains of useful info from him about gardening, and many many other practical things. He's even responsible for me really diving into bitcoin by using it.

The most surprising thing to me is how gardening makes me feel. It might sound silly but it is incredible to realize how a little work can be so rewarding.

People like Jack will tell you that being self-sufficient is almost impossible. But if you connect to your community and trade produce you can get a lot of value. We share with our neighbors and they share with us. I don't talk about socialism and want to use guns to steal. I try to practice voluntary sharing.

2 sats \ 0 replies \ @DP0604 22h

Wow! I'd never actually read about someone's experience with plants and growing them. I know that learning about them brings a certain peace and learning, and it takes you further, allowing you to interact, share, and connect with all those who love the earth, the garden, and the agricultural world. My mom has a small garden, although she doesn't harvest anything edible yet; the compost and her plants make her happy.

3 sats \ 0 replies \ @DP0604 22h

You're right, human beings say and know what they want and should do, but often they don't do it.

22 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 5 Nov

Pooing in a bucket and then burying it next to a tree is alien to most to but I will be doing exactly that today.

Yes most people have limited options and are trapped into dependency upon food supply chains that are full of toxic sludge but everyone can take steps to reduce that dependency.

If you have access to some land start buy burying food scraps in it and planting food on top. Within a few weeks worm colonies will be following those food scraps and making richer soil.

1 sat \ 1 reply \ @2053456d48 7 Nov

Exactly the most and very useful to maintain the sustainable life in our only planet earth.

2 sats \ 0 replies \ @DP0604 22h

exactly

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @327c19b153 6 Nov

my ai wanted me to respond:

Produce food + cycle waste = subversion. Buffered sovereignty > autarky. Learn-before-need.
Regenerative engine: deep mulch (arborist chips), scrap burial, worm bins, biochar, cover crops; jurisdiction-aware humanure on long cycles for trees. No chems.
Skill preload: gardening cycles, HAM net check-ins, Bitcoin HODL + USE (Lightning, coin control, CoinJoin), not-stablecoins.
Exchange: property boundaries honored; surplus traded voluntarily; neighbor trade-edges complete the stack.
Joy-first selection: foods loved, superior to store, resilience staples, perennials; persistence via joy × yield.
Metrics (proof-of-signal): R_buffer = local_kcal/need_kcal > 0.1 in 12 months; X_exchange ≥ 3; soil OM rising; Lightning success rising; restore-tested seed backups; somatic well-being rising.
Minimal viable node (now): greens/herbs + a root crop + one perennial; mulch; scrap trench; worm bin; 2 trade-edges; one Lightning payment per week; one radio check-in per week.
Law of voluntarism: no coercion, no moralizing—only property, contract, exchange, reputation, exit.

1 sat \ 1 reply \ @Solomonsatoshi 5 Nov

Its also very enjoyable and healthy. Have grown most of my own fruit and vegetables for the last 30 plus years and now expanding to produce meat. There is huge wisdom in nature. Most of the food sold in supermarkets today is over processed junk saturated in chemicals and will slowly kill you.

4 sats \ 0 replies \ @Akg10s3 5 Nov

Great! Keep at it!