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List of technical people against relaxing the OP_RETURN filter github.com/supertestnet/list_of_technical_people_against_relaxing_the_op_return_filter

498 sats \ 39 comments \ @supratic 14h bitcoin

@supertestnet making this list because he talked to 3 different people recently who plan to remain on Bitcoin Core due to their impression that a "consensus of the devs" favors relaxing the op_return filters, and that only a handful of technical people dispute this consensus. He wants to show that there is no such consensus.

By "technical people" he mean people who write or review code for protocols and apps that are (1) bitcoin itself (2) "on" bitcoin (e.g. wallets) (3) bitcoin adjacent (e.g. Liquid)

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123 sats \ 21 replies \ @optimism 12h

It's... configurable? What other 30.0 feature is controversial that is not configurable? txorphanage?

All this drama because Szabo came back or his acct got hacked?

211 sats \ 15 replies \ @Scoresby 12h

My guess is it's him. He joined the board of Jan3 in January and his tweets have largely followed the line of Excellion.

Also Szabo's recent immigration takes seem to align with his pre 2021 takes.

102 sats \ 13 replies \ @optimism 12h

I'm agnostic to him coming back or his account getting hacked.

#noheroes

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 12h

102 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 12h

Exactly!!!

10 sats \ 10 replies \ @sudonaka 8h

Oh right now you are “slaying your heroes” because Nick won’t go along with your change?

Wow the cognitive dissonance is unbelievable

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @Scoresby 8h

good friend, I challenge you to find the instance where I said anyone working on Core was my hero, or where I acted like Core developers deserve any special credence because of who they are.

I do believe they deserve credence because of their past work, just as I think Szabo is worth listening to because of his past work.

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @sudonaka 8h

What previous work exactly?

The inflation bug? Taproot witness exploit?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ivermectin 6h outlawed

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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @optimism 8h

My heroes? Nope. My change? Nope. Also I'm not achow.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @sudonaka 8h

You are supporting v30 so yes it is your change brother

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @optimism 8h

It must suck to so desperately need a tree to bark up on, that you have to resort to this tree. lol

I'm supporting code review. Have you done code review, brother? Have you at the very least read the release notes? What's the non-configurable change and how is it controversial?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @sudonaka 8h

Make sure you mention all that to the jury for the cp distribution trial, I’m sure they will understand.

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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 11h

LOL now all make sense

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @sudonaka 8h

None of you "technical" geniuses have explained what exactly is preventing this exact same thing from happening to bitcoin just like it did on BSV with the same code. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47130268

102 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 8h

Nothing is.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @sudonaka 5h

And you think that’s just fine, and everyone should upgrade to v30 and there won’t be any problems?

Wow

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @supratic OP 11h

How's Szabo related to all this drama?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 10h

Ask him. https://nitter.net/NickSzabo4/status/1975805206031179831#m

111 sats \ 5 replies \ @k00b 13h

Bitcoin Mechanic

I could've swore dude is nontechnical.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @supratic OP 13h

He is in the mining side.

169 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 13h

I know he works for a company that does technical things, but it's disingenuous to call him technical.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 13h

I mean... a mechanic is technical right? Right? lol

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @88b0c423eb 10h

lol

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @88b0c423eb 10h

bitcoin or gold?

111 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford 12h

This may be a dumb question but I'm gonna ask it.

Consensus of what devs? Are people thinking there is consensus of core devs or just devs that build bitcoin ecosystem tools?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 12h

No, it's a very smart question, actually. And I don't know the answer. I'd personally not call this shitshow "consensus", but then, who cares? You can still configure it in any way you like.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @sudonaka 8h

People care if they care about Bitcoin.

Bitcoin-core being corrupt or compromised is a pretty big deal

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 10h

Indeed...

65 sats \ 2 replies \ @SimpleStacker 12h

I don't really like this kind of appeal to authority. The arguments should stand on their own. Yes, being experienced with the technical side gives you some more weight on technical matters, but Bitcoin is more than just a technical system. There are all sorts of incentives and game theory that matter as well, which is not traditionally the realm of programmers (which is what is typically meant by technical).

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 10h

Engineers OFTEN have bad ideas. This is why the vast majority of apps/projects fail. Their code might be great but the idea is bad.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 10h

I don't really like this kind of appeal to authority. The arguments should stand on their own.

Indeed

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 13h

He wants to show that there is no such consensus

Yeah, when consensus is used as a tool to shut up debate... that's no good.

Also no good is bad arguments that are hyperbolic. I've seen way too much of that in this debate.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @88b0c423eb 10h

It's missing Nick Szabo

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @sudonaka 8h

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