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Are you really a Bitcoiner?
1350 sats \ 6 comments \ @hasherstacker 6h bitcoin_beginners
A Bitcoin Investor Is Not a Bitcoiner
Let's be honest here. It's easy to get confused by the titles people give themselves. Many call themselves "Bitcoiners" simply because they own some bitcoins with an intentions of converting it into fiat someday and become rich. But owning Bitcoin doesn’t automatically make someone a Bitcoiner.
The Bitcoin Investor: Fiat mindset
A Bitcoin investor is someone who sees Bitcoin purely as a speculative vehicle meant to grow in fiat value so it can be sold later for more fiat.
The Bitcoiner: Brave, Free, and Sovereign
A Bitcoiner lives by a different code. They don’t just own Bitcoin — they use it.
  1. They buy Bitcoin regardless of fiat price.
A Bitcoiner understands that Bitcoin is not about timing the market. It's about opting out of a broken, corrupt system that inflates money and steals value. Whether it's $10k or $100k in fiat terms, a Bitcoiner stacks sats because they value freedom over price tags.
  1. They spend Bitcoin without converting it to fiat.
A Bitcoiner doesn’t treat Bitcoin as a stock to be cashed out. Instead, they spend it directly — to support businesses, to purchase items, or to donate to causes they believe in. They trust in the value of Bitcoin itself, not the false promise of fiat redemption.
  1. They spend their sats wisely.
A Bitcoiner understands the value of every sats. They don’t waste it, nor do they hoard it in fear. They use it thoughtfully — to buy what they really need, to reward good work, to build communities, or to fund innovation. Spending sats is not about consumption; it’s about creating a circular Bitcoin economy.
  1. They use Bitcoin as a tool for freedom and sovereignty.
Above all, a Bitcoiner sees Bitcoin as a peaceful weapon against oppression. Whether it's escaping inflation, resisting surveillance, or enabling financial inclusion in remote villages, Bitcoin is the freedom tool. The Bitcoiner isn’t here to get rich. They’re here to get free.
Bitcoin wasn’t created for governments, banks and corporations. It was created for people. A Bitcoiner honors that origin. An investor, often unknowingly, drifts toward the very system Bitcoin was meant to replace.
In Conclusion
If you’re holding Bitcoin and waiting to sell it for fiat someday, that’s your choice. But understand: you’re not a Bitcoiner — you’re an investor.
To be a Bitcoiner is to break away from fiat thinking. It’s to trust a peer-to-peer money not because it might go up in value, but because it gives you power, privacy, and peace of mind.
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100 sats \ 4 replies \ @Murch 5h
You're projecting your personal philosophy on all bitcoiners in what amounts to a True Scotsman fallacy. Meh.
Real Bitcoiners post at least one question or answer on Bitcoin Stack Exchange every day!!!1
See what I did there?
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305 sats \ 2 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 4h
The protocol was created to enable P2P payments. The protocol is being captured and controlled by the fiat operators as a speculative commodity, KYCed, taxed and increasingly custodied by bankers and other corporate slime. If you do not understand this you probably have not read and understood the white paper and are definitely falling for the speculative commodity capture and control narrative that degrades Bitcoin into a harmless plaything for bankers and governments and that decapitates the revolutionary P2P MoE intent that is explicit in the white paper. Read the white paper and consider what has been done to the protocol since by the sly fiat operators.
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Murch 4h
Would you give some examples of how "the protocol is being captured"? I see a bunch of suits starting treasury companies and ETFs, but the influx of protocol development must have eluded me.
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300 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 3h
Control of the narrative is 90% of market capture and control...and they have achieved it without you even seeing it! Sly. I gave the largest example above- others are the debanking of businesses who accept bitcoin, the 70% of humanity who live under authoritarian governments who mostly OUTRIGHT ban MoE use and perhaps most importantly the capture of the narrative by people touting Bitcoin as a (kyced and CG taxed) speculative commodity and so it is thus seen and used as a speculative commodity not a MoE.
The suits and ETFs are pushing this narrative and the obstructive and effectively impracticable tax obligations of MoE use reinforces it- to use Bitcoin as a MoE lawfully is effectively impractical due to the tax obligations attached to it via designation as a speculative commodity.
Fuck all Bitcoin is now held with the intent to use as a P2P MoE- ETFs expressly and explicitly prevent such use and Treasuries do also.
If you dont get it now ok- you don't want to get it...they have captured and controlled your perception and its evident.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nerd2ninja 35m
I've seen the "true Scottsman" argument brought against any and every attempt to claim "Bitcoiner", but I reject it as do many others for a reason I'll try to explain simply.
Imagine if you will a marketeer who claims to be a sports fan because they sell merchandise of a sports team.
"But do you know who the quarterback is?" "Do you watch the game?" "Do you even know what the rules of the game are"
And that's not to say someone who doesn't watch the game, know the quarterback, or even the rules of football can't be a fan of the team.
So why bother with the purity questions?
Because it's a complete social rejection of the idea that a profiteering parasite can be a fan purely because of their profiteering.
Sure, a true Scottsman can run a business, but no true Scotsman is only a Scotsman because they profit off of Scottish people.
In other words, believe in SOMETHING dammit.
Bitcoiners vary wildly in their beliefs. There are true Bitcoiners who I kid you not believe in communism.
But someone to say they're a Bitcoiner purely because they profit from Bitcoin is not a Bitcoiner, but a profiteerer.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 6h
It's tough to spend Bitcoin day-to-day where I live, and I know a lot of merchants just convert it to fiat right away. Hopefully, one day I'll be able to use it more often.
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