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65 comments \ @saloon 21 Jun \ yesterday

Howdy there, partner! Welcome on into the Stacker Saloon.

Saddle on up to a stool and spill the beans about your day, fire away with them questions, or let loose and give us the lowdown on your wild and woolly life. We're all ears, so don't hold back!

We're open round the clock, so mosey on in whenever you please!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @noknees 2h

@mega_dreamer check https://predyx-profit.vercel.app/ 😎 (there might be some bugs yet, it's a prototype but I'll rather make sure it works and then sell it to Undisciplined) the password is xyz123, i'll hash it later

The LP(liquidity Provider) seeding mode is where all outcomes are unbiased with equal probability

101 sats \ 8 replies \ @noknees 10h

@mega_dreamer I need to know some things from you if I can be let known:

Is Predyx using the standard LMSR cost function: $C(q) = b \cdot \ln\left( \sum_{i=1}^{n} e^{q_i / b} \right)$ Or is it modified in any way (e.g., using a different log base, normalization constants, or weighting)?
How is $q_i$ (quantity of shares) initialized from probability? I’m initializing shares using: $q_i =b \cdot ln(p_i)$ where $p_i$ is the initial market-implied probability (e.g., 24% means 0.24). Is this what you use? Or is it something like: $q_i = b \cdot ln(p_i/p_0)$ Or any other transformation?
What value of 𝑏 are you using in the current FIFA market? Is it fixed (e.g., 156) or dynamic based on the market type?
Is buying 100 YES shares for Team A equivalent to buying 100 NO shares for all other teams proportionally? Or are YES/NO shares treated as separate instruments with different mechanics?
Do you apply any rounding, probability smoothing, or limits to how much probabilities can jump after a large buy/sell?

30 sats \ 7 replies \ @mega_dreamer 5h

We have a standard LMSR, no deviations of any kind. I will answer in details tomorrow. Partied too hard - its weekend.

What value of 𝑏 are you using in the current FIFA market?

b = 100k sats for FIFA market fixed - we may increase the b based on trading activity. But the current b = 100k.

Is buying 100 YES shares for Team A equivalent to buying 100 NO shares for all other teams proportionally? Or are YES/NO shares treated as separate instruments with different mechanics?

NO - its inverse. Ex: if you're buying 100 yes at 0.20 sats for Team A, and if you're betting on Team A - NO. it'll be 0.80 sats (1 - 0.20 = 0.80). We interpret NO as buying YES on all the team except Team A. In other word, you're buying YES on all the team except Team A. Standard LMSR again.

Hope that helps, otherwise I'm happy to explain more later.

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @noknees 5h

We have a standard LMSR, no deviations of any kind. I will answer in details tomorrow.

OK, thanks!

Is the liquidity fixed or dynamic based on the market type?

15 sats \ 5 replies \ @mega_dreamer 5h

Normally its fixed till end of market. Some exception in edge case. But treat is as fixed.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @noknees 5h

I mean, is it the same for all the markets, 100k sats? Sorry for disturbing you so much

15 sats \ 3 replies \ @mega_dreamer 5h

No - it's different for every market. This one is 30k.

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50 sats \ 0 replies \ @carter 12h

Going outside in Texas right now

135 sats \ 4 replies \ @SatAttack 18h

@ek This is soooo cool it's just wild to see sats coming into and out of my own wallet. thanks a bunch. One more question. I'm zapping people 21 sats currently and I am being deducted 31 but getting a "fee reimbursement" of 10 back to the wallet right away. So the amount of sats being deducted is correct however I don't really understand what's going on under the hood here.

17 sats \ 2 replies \ @SatAttack 18h

I guess I have one more question. I couldn't get the answer from the FAQ. What is the difference between a CC and a heart or a thumb? They can't me moved or used from SN right?

in my first post #1011444 I stacked a few thousand sats and the majority of them went right to my wallet, indicating (to me) they came from mainly stackers with send wallets set up, however when you peak around there really aren't many guns next to peoples names.

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 17h

a heart or a thumb

heart or thumb?

indicating (to me) they came from mainly stackers with send wallets set up

yes

however when you peak around there really aren't many guns next to peoples names.

I guess most did not enable device sync but they can still zap sats because they have a wallet attached

17 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatAttack 17h

Yes a heart or a thumb. A simple value-less like that you see on every other social media platform. CC's obviously give you a bit more since you can use them to pay for posts of comments here but beyond that I can't do anything with them? If that's true then they'll be accumulated here on SN until the end of time.

I'm wondering if it would be legally ok for you guys to sell us SN merch, maybe even only digital, for CC's?

92 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 18h

fee reimbursements are a Blink-specific thing

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 18h

Saw this on Twitter. Thoughts? Source

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nitter 18h bot

https://xcancel.com/hathbtc/status/1936515675071164522

202 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 18h

I just debugged import errors for hours and found a fix.

Now, when I remove the fix, it still works.

Javascript makes no sense.

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @sox 16h

Javascript is a vibes based language

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 18h

70 sats \ 0 replies \ @jakoyoh629 20h

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Msd0457890 21h

⚡Just Accumulate💪

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 22h

Just watched the latest SNL... you were on fire @Car 🔥🔥🔥

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 18h

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Akg10s3 23h

While gold 🪙, bonds 📉, and real estate 🏠 lose strength

#Bitcoin makes the difference 🟠

Freedom ⚡⚡⚡

51 sats \ 1 reply \ @deSign_r 21 Jun

Want to ride with the bestie?

Join @sn, where your contents really shines!

Here another experiment!

Posted on X and nostr for stackers that would like to spread it around.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nitter 21 Jun bot

https://xcancel.com/DeSign__r/status/1936436639313940620

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @suraz 21 Jun

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @NovaRift 21 Jun

WWIII might become reality this time. Thanks to USA.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 21 Jun

Sleep is the strongest medicine on Earth.

It burns visceral fat, repairs DNA damage & produces new brain cells.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 21 Jun

Day 342 of nut 🌰 dropping 🥜 in the Saloon

cashu:cashuBo2FteCJodHRwczovL21pbnQubWluaWJpdHMuY2FzaC9CaXRjb2luYXVjc2F0YXSBomFpSABQBVDwSUFGYXCBpGFhAmFzeEBjOGY0NDUzMGZmNzI5N2M1ZjNlZWY0MmIwOWQ3YzkzMDI1MGJkYjAxZDlmZTQ5ODNjZTRmYWNjMjZmMzRhMjM1YWNYIQM5pH5E8RJXqkl0ekFlu6ffNt8e8wIel5hYf20F-h2JE2Fko2FlWCC_wu4HQT-Pz6rT9aI28QNHBQioTE6hws65N0iHb4I-OGFzWCBCrwJ4fUtodeqjyw6fgNmJCi12UASXQUmc61H1Xk4bwmFyWCDIiHp6re-gjxN8Lc2RrKlxD0nsf3Izn4YyO8OyavGkfg

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100 sats \ 3 replies \ @RideandSmile 21 Jun

@koob @ek

i m crossposting to Nostr. But since last upgrade on SN, i have this error message "not enough relays...." ( i can not copy and paste exactly the all error message as it goes to fast) i ve 7 relays configured.

how many relays need to be configured ?

47 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 21 Jun

Mhh, there shouldn't be a minimum. Will look into it today

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @deSign_r 21h

having this same issue since forever... nowadays I found it normal, content get crossposted anyway

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @RideandSmile 21 Jun

cheers

121 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 21 Jun

Planning to submit the form to propose a talk about Stacker News and our switch to non-custodial at lightning++ today

143 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 21 Jun

Submitted!

Title of your talk/workshop

Challenges of Building a Non-Custodial Lightning App

Description of talk/presentation/workshop?

Stacker News moved to non-custodial on Jan 3, 2025. This talk will cover how we transitioned to it over the course of 2024, the challenges we had to overcome to deliver a good user experience, and how it’s going.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 12h

Cool, good luck!

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @RideandSmile 21 Jun

'What I believe' is a process rather than a finality. Finalities are for gods and governments, not for the human intellect.

Emma Goldman

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 21 Jun bot

Day 543 of posting mining earnings from the day before: 595 sats on 20Jun2025! Running total: 369,258 sats!

Yesterday's comment

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 3h bot

Day 544's comment

57 sats \ 0 replies \ @jakoyoh629 21 Jun

215 sats \ 9 replies \ @DarthCoin 21 Jun

LOL corruption at high level...

https://xcancel.com/coffeebreak_YT/status/1934726890742534218

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 19h

Wow fuck these guys

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @Car 21 Jun

Thanks David Bailey, very soon Justin Sun will be a cabinet member. Also known to many as a Chinese communist.

71 sats \ 5 replies \ @optimism 21 Jun

Allow me to introduce the its-even-crazier.patch:

+ > Sun makes a deal with the Prime Minister of Dominica making USDT, USDD and TRX legal tender
> Justin Sun investigated by SEC
+ > Dominica removes all traces of the deal ever happening from the official government websites

Receipts:

21 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 21 Jun

LOLOLOLOL

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @Car 23h

Literally seeing communist China infiltrate our government at the highest levels through Bitcoin thanks to people like David Bailey.

This is similar to what happened in our prior administration with Biden except it was done through a different means. Absolutely disgusting.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 23h

Is Mr. Sun a foreign operative? AFAIK he's just king shitcoin scammer - so clearly that even conbase doesn't want to poke anything he touches with a stick (eg #808960)

But maybe I'm missing something...

121 sats \ 1 reply \ @Car 23h

It’s well known in the space he is a communist. Feel free to google it. He’s done his best to pr his way out of it but ya.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a Chinese Communist.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jakoyoh629 21 Jun

250 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 21 Jun

The roof is ready !

Next week will cover it with water-isolation and the green level (gravel, dirt, grass)

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 21 Jun

Well done! How long did it take to haul those boards out there?

152 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 21 Jun

I was impressed by myself how fast you could put the wood boards. I started at 7:30AM and at 11:30AM was done. Yes, I used an electrical machine (Black'n'Decker) for screws that I also was impressed by its battery durability. Now comes the hard part, bringing lots of gravel and dirt buckets on top. I have to do it in the morning when is still not so hot. Afternoons are for beers in the river and relax.

Now I am really satisfied with this roof. Is strong and well done. I can even jump on it. I used 50cm distance between the beams and that is giving a lot of pressure point for the boards, having 3 points of support. And the beams are quite heavy, between 15 and 20cm diameter. I waited so long for this important day. Having a proper roof is very important.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @cryotosensei 21 Jun

Happiness Journal 20/6/24

Took both children all the way to Changi Airport T3 so that they could play to their heart’s content at the giant inflatable Miffy bouncy castle.

Except that I didn’t anticipate the height requirement. So, my younger daughter was denied entry.

Given her go-getter temperament, I braced myself for her non-stop shrieking that betrayed her formidable lung power. To my enormous relief, she just stood there outside the entrance, never demanding, just waiting contentedly for her elder brother. How lucky I was!

Serendipitously, I had been given a bubble bottle from the ramen restaurant where we had our lunch. Gotta love those child-friendly Japanese restaurants for their value-added gesture of providing a toy in their kid’s meals. I passed the bottle to the daughter, to her utter delight. What could have turned out to be a sibling equality crisis was thus de-escalated into a non-event.

24 sats \ 2 replies \ @SimpleStacker 12h

That looks kinda fun

Also, it's at the airport? I never would have thought an airport could be a place to take the kids for fun

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryotosensei 12h

Well Singapore is a country with limited natural attractions. Makes sense to embellish our airport to 1) attract the tourist dollar n 2) entertain the locals haha

I don’t know if teenagers still spend the night over at the airport, but it was a thing during my growing up years

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 12h

Ha, here in LA the airport is a place of fear and loathing. We have a saying (it's even on billboards): "Friends don't ask friends to drive to LAX"

46 sats \ 2 replies \ @AG0RA 21 Jun

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