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You had them, but did you think more about yourself and your experience or really was about them? Like, there’s this movie, Arrival (2016). Amazing film. This is kind of a medium spoiler, but you should still watch it:
The protagonist can see the future, and she knows her child will die young. Yet, she chooses to have the child anyway, because of how beautiful the experience will be, and yada yada
And I kind of see her decision as more about her own desire to have the kid than about truly considering the kid and her life. Like, yes, the child will be loved, will have a good life (until the cancer), she’ll be happy for the most part. And maybe the mother chooses to have her so the child can experience all those positive things, that she already know that will happen (she saw the future).
But at the same time, it feels very narcissistic, because of the obvious.
You, as a parent, how do you see that? You know your kids will probably suffer in life (even just a heartbreak, or a broken arm), and you’re partly responsible for that.
What’s your view?
It's not so shallow. I'll leave this here for anyone interested in understanding Antinatalism more deeply: https://iep.utm.edu/anti-natalism/
It is primarily privileged Westerners
Some of the biggest antinatalist movements are actually in India and China.
And they can choose to end it if they like
But if they choose to, surpassing the instincts of self-preservation, it’s not very easy or painless to opt out (lol). I’m kind of on the side of natalism these days because I must believe that there is hope in life, but the antinatalist arguments are much more convincing.
Thanks for the responses, I will think more about the theme.
Interesting points. But I can't shake the feeling that:
Choosing not to have kids is depriving someone of life they would have valued
Can be valid for the other side as well. The antinatalist argument believes that there is more suffering than pleasure/non-suffering. ‘Choosing TO have kids is condemning someone to a life they would probably hate.’ And (just guessing) that’s probably true, especially if you’re born in a shitty country like India, Libya, or in a favela in the northeast of Brazil. I dunno, dude. I need to read more and live more to get to a good answer.
The world is full of people who would be better off not being born into situations where they’ll suffer.
When we talk about things like climate collapse, authoritarianism, etc, it's not just some vague concern - it's happening. The choice to bring children into a world like that is a serious one. If you choose to bring a child to the world, but you live in a socialist shithole, for example, that's not very nice.
And about the 'I didn't ask to be born' idea, it's not about asking for permission, but about the ethics of creating someone who has no control over their existence. We can't survey potential lives, but it doesn’t invalidate the argument that maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't assume it’s always right to bring someone into the world when it's filled with so much suffering. Almost never is.
Almost no one wishes they didn't exist.
But what about those struggling with suicidal thoughts? Don’t they often wish they didn’t exist? Over 700k people die by suicide every year around the globe. What about people in extreme financial conditions, or those suffering from chronic diseases, disabilities, or unrelenting pain? For many, the desire to escape their circumstances can make life feel unbearable. The argument for antinatalism isn't about denying the potential for happiness or prosperity, but recognizing the real and devastating suffering that can accompany existence.
more people = more prosperity
While it's true that more people can contribute to economic growth, this doesn't seem enough to justify bringing more suffering into the world.
I get where you're coming from, and you're absolutely right that fiat units are arbitrary in design and differ in scale (like JPY vs USD). But the reason I chose to track 1 sat against 1 unit of fiat is because it reflects how people psychologically relate to their money in daily life.
Most people don't think in terms of market caps, they think in terms of what one unit of their local currency can buy. When 1 sat is worth more than 1 yen, 1 real, or even 1 dollar, it sends a powerful message: Bitcoin has appreciated to the point that even its smallest unit beats what people consider their "baseline" money, or, put another way, their local currency has depreciated so much that 1 sat now holds more value than 1 full unit of it.
It’s symbolic! Kind of like how the Doomsday Clock isn’t a precise scientific measurement, but more of a metaphor to raise awareness. This tracker is meant to provoke that same sense of awareness and reflection from an everyday user's point of view.
That said, I appreciate the critique. Comparing market caps is definitely more rigorous in economic terms. Yeah, maybe a future version could show both!